From: Phillip Lougher <phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: David Newall <davidn@davidnewall.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
hch@lst.de
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/7] [RFC] cramfs: fake write support
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:54:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48421D65.8040301@lougher.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200805312240.50720.arnd@arndb.de>
Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Saturday 31 May 2008, David Newall wrote:
>> I don't agree that it is nicer to do this in cramfs. I prefer the
>> technique of union of a tmpfs over some other fs because a single
>> solution that works with all filesystems is better than re-implementing
>> the same idea in multiple filesystems. Multiple implementations is a
>> recipe for bugs and feature mismatch.
>
> You're right in principle, but unfortunately there is to date no working
> implementation of union mounts. Giving users the option of using an
> existing file system with a few tweaks can only be better than than
> forcing them to use hacks like unionfs.
>
I tend to agree with Arnd Bergmann. While I prefer the aesthetic
cleanliness of stackable filesystems, the lack of proper stacking
support in the Linux VFS makes other techniques necessary. Unionfs is
complex and for many embedded systems with constrained resources Unionfs
adds a lot of extra overhead.
If I read the patches correctly, when a file page is written to, only
that page gets copied into the page cache and locked, the other pages
continue to be read off disk from cramfs? With Unionfs a page write
causes the entire file to be copied up to the r/w tmpfs and locked into
the page cache causing unnecessary RAM overhead.
Phillip
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-01 4:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-31 15:37 [RFC 0/7] [RFC] cramfs: fake write support arnd
2008-05-31 18:56 ` David Newall
2008-05-31 20:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-01 3:54 ` Phillip Lougher [this message]
2008-06-01 8:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-01 12:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-01 21:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-02 2:48 ` hooanon05
2008-06-02 3:25 ` Erez Zadok
2008-06-02 7:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-02 18:13 ` Erez Zadok
2008-06-03 2:02 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-06-02 3:51 ` Erez Zadok
2008-06-02 11:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-02 4:37 ` Erez Zadok
2008-06-02 6:07 ` Bharata B Rao
2008-06-02 7:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-06-02 7:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-02 10:36 ` hooanon05
2008-06-02 11:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-02 12:56 ` hooanon05
2008-06-02 14:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-02 14:33 ` hooanon05
2008-06-02 15:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-03 11:04 ` hooanon05
2008-06-02 14:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-02 17:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-02 15:35 ` Erez Zadok
2008-06-01 6:02 ` David Newall
2008-06-01 9:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-06-01 16:25 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-01 3:19 ` Phillip Lougher
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