From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>, Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Andreas Dilger <adilger@shaw.ca>,
Kalpak Shah <Ka
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Fiemap, an extent mapping ioctl - round 2
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:48:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48639E2B.4000401@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080626131600.GS29319@disturbed>
Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 01:19:51PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
>> Andreas Dilger wrote:
>>>> Is there a reason why fsync() before calling FIEMAP is unsuitable?
>>> This was added because the xfsbmap operation always did an fsync before
>>> returning the extents. I don't think it is strictly required, but it
>>> isn't harmful either.
>> It's not harmful but suggests it might do something important -
>> e.g. provide atomicity between the fsync and getting extends.
>
> It does precisely that.
xfs does via the bmap ioctl, but the generic fiemap implementation does
not. It probably should be removed from the vfs level:
+ if (fieinfo.fi_flags & FIEMAP_FLAG_SYNC)
+ filemap_write_and_wait(inode->i_mapping);
and let the filesystem handle it in an atomic way?
>>>>> * FIEMAP_FLAG_XATTR
>>>>> If this flag is set, the extents returned will describe the inodes
>>>>> extended attribute lookup tree, instead of it's data tree.
>>>> What is this for? The meaning of the xattr tree sounds rather
>>>> filesystem specific to me.
>>> This is to return the location of the xattr blocks for the inode.
>> Some filesystems will store xattrs as metadata - in exactly the same
>> as, say, the inode itself, it's permissions, mappings etc.
>>
>> I'm not sure why xattrs get special treatment, compared with a
>> hypothetical FIEMAP_FLAG_METADATA for example, indicating which
>> physical blocks contain the inode itself, or it's other auxiliary
>> information.
>
> Because xattrs tend to contain user data, not metadata?
Agreed, I don't see anything particularly strange about returning the
xattr mapping, and to me it's not particularly fs specific (well, the
detailed format of the on-disk data might be, i.e. the layout of names &
values within that blob of data, but it is still user data... I guess
it's something of a grey area).
-Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-26 13:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-25 22:18 [PATCH 0/4] Fiemap, an extent mapping ioctl - round 2 Mark Fasheh
2008-06-26 3:03 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-26 9:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 10:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-26 11:37 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-06-26 12:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 13:16 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-26 13:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 13:48 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2008-06-26 14:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 16:56 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-29 19:12 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-06-29 21:45 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-30 22:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-30 23:07 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-07-01 2:01 ` Brad Boyer
2008-07-02 6:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-02 6:33 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-02 14:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 17:17 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-26 14:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-27 1:41 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-27 9:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-27 10:01 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-27 10:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-27 22:48 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-28 4:21 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-07-02 6:26 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-02 14:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-02 21:20 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-07-03 14:45 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 14:04 ` Dave Kleikamp
2008-06-26 14:15 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-26 14:27 ` Dave Kleikamp
2008-07-02 23:48 ` jim owens
2008-07-03 11:17 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-03 12:11 ` jim owens
2008-07-03 22:51 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-04 8:31 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-04 12:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-07 7:40 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-07 16:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-07 22:51 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-07 21:16 ` jim owens
2008-07-08 3:01 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-07 22:02 ` jim owens
2008-07-09 2:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-03 12:21 ` jim owens
2008-07-03 12:42 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-04 20:32 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-07-05 10:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-05 21:44 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-07-07 23:01 ` jim owens
2008-07-08 1:51 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-08 13:02 ` jim owens
2008-07-08 14:03 ` jim owens
2008-07-08 14:39 ` jim owens
2008-07-08 14:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 1:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 17:01 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-03 14:37 ` jim owens
2008-07-03 15:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-04 8:49 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-04 11:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-03 23:00 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-04 9:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-07 23:28 ` jim owens
2008-07-09 1:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-09 15:01 ` jim owens
2008-07-08 0:06 ` jim owens
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