From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Black_David@emc.com,
"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
Tom Coughlan <coughlan@redhat.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: thin provisioned LUN support
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:43:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4913028B.6010405@redhat.com> (raw)
After talking to some vendors, one issue that came up is that the arrays
all have a different size that is used internally to track the SCSI
equivalent of TRIM commands (POKE/unmap).
What they would like is for us to coalesce these commands into aligned
multiples of these chunks. If not, the target device will most likely
ignore the bits at the beginning and end (and all small requests).
I have been thinking about whether or not we can (and should) do
anything more than our current best effort to send down large chunks
(note that the "chunk" size can range from reasonable sizes like 8KB or
so up to close to 1MB!).
One suggestion is that a modified defrag sweep could be used
periodically to update the device (a proposal I am not keen on).
Thoughts?
Ric
next reply other threads:[~2008-11-06 14:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-06 14:43 Ric Wheeler [this message]
2008-11-06 15:17 ` thin provisioned LUN support James Bottomley
2008-11-06 15:24 ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-06 16:00 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-06 16:40 ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-11-06 17:04 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-06 17:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-07 12:05 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-07 12:14 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-07 12:17 ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-07 12:19 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-07 14:26 ` thin provisioned LUN support & file system allocation policy Ric Wheeler
2008-11-07 14:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-07 14:45 ` Jörn Engel
2008-11-07 14:43 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-07 14:54 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-07 15:26 ` jim owens
2008-11-07 15:31 ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-07 15:35 ` jim owens
2008-11-07 15:46 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-07 15:51 ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-11-07 16:06 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-07 15:56 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-07 15:36 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-07 15:48 ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-07 15:36 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-07 15:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-07 16:07 ` jim owens
2008-11-07 16:12 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-07 16:23 ` jim owens
2008-11-07 16:02 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-07 14:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-07 15:20 ` thin provisioned LUN support James Bottomley
2008-11-09 23:08 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-09 23:37 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-10 0:33 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-10 14:31 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-07 15:49 ` Chris Mason
2008-11-07 16:00 ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-11-07 16:06 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-07 16:11 ` Chris Mason
2008-11-07 16:18 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-07 16:22 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-07 16:27 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-07 16:28 ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-07 17:22 ` Chris Mason
2008-11-07 18:09 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-07 18:36 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-07 18:41 ` Ric Wheeler
[not found] ` <49148BDF.9050707@redhat.com>
2008-11-07 19:35 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-07 19:55 ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-11-07 20:19 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-07 20:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <20081107202149.GJ15439@parisc-linux.org>
2008-11-07 20:26 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-07 20:48 ` Chris Mason
2008-11-07 21:04 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-07 21:13 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-07 20:42 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-07 21:06 ` Martin K. Petersen
2008-11-07 20:37 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-10 2:44 ` Black_David
2008-11-10 2:36 ` Black_David
2008-11-07 19:44 ` jim owens
2008-11-07 19:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-07 19:50 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-09 23:36 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-10 3:40 ` Thin provisioning & arrays Black_David
2008-11-10 8:31 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-10 9:59 ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-10 13:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-10 13:36 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-10 17:05 ` UNMAP is a hint Black_David
2008-11-10 17:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-10 17:56 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-10 22:18 ` Thin provisioning & arrays Dave Chinner
2008-11-11 1:23 ` Black_David
2008-11-11 2:09 ` Keith Owens
2008-11-11 13:59 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-11 14:55 ` jim owens
2008-11-11 15:38 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-11 15:59 ` jim owens
2008-11-11 16:25 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-11 16:53 ` jim owens
2008-11-11 23:08 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-11 23:52 ` jim owens
2008-11-11 22:49 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-06 15:27 ` thin provisioned LUN support jim owens
2008-11-06 15:57 ` jim owens
2008-11-06 16:21 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <yq1d4h8nao5.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net>
2008-11-06 15:42 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-06 15:57 ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-06 22:36 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-06 22:55 ` Ric Wheeler
[not found] ` <491375E9.7020707@redhat.com>
2008-11-06 23:06 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-06 23:10 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-11-06 23:26 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-06 23:32 ` thin provisioned LUN support - T10 activity Black_David
2008-11-07 11:59 ` thin provisioned LUN support Artem Bityutskiy
2008-11-10 20:39 ` Aggregating discard requests in the filesystem Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-10 20:44 ` Chris Mason
2008-11-11 0:12 ` Brad Boyer
2008-11-11 15:25 ` jim owens
2008-11-11 16:40 ` thin provisioned LUN support Christoph Hellwig
2008-11-11 17:07 ` jim owens
2008-11-11 17:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
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