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From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] xfs: batched discard support
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:42:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A8D60C1.6000809@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A8D5FDB.7080505@rtr.ca>

On 08/20/2009 10:38 AM, Mark Lord wrote:
> Ric Wheeler wrote:
>>
>> Note that returning consistent data is critical for devices that are
>> used in a RAID group since you will need each RAID block that is used
>> to compute the parity to continue to return the same data until you
>> overwrite it with new data :-)
>>
>> If we have a device that does not support this (or is misconfigured
>> not to do this), we should not use those devices in an MD group & do
>> discard against it...
> ..
>
> Well, that's a bit drastic. But the RAID software should at least
> not issue TRIM commands in ignorance of such.

If the storage can return different data in a sequence of READ requests of the 
same sector (with no writes), there is nothing RAID could do. It would see total 
garbage...

> Would it still be okay to do the TRIMs when the entire parity stripe
> (across all members) is being discarded? (As opposed to just partial
> data there being dropped)

This should be safe if the MD bitmaps would prevent us from trying to 
READ/regenerate parity for that stripe...

ric

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-20 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-16  0:47 [PATCH, RFC] xfs: batched discard support Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-16  1:35 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16  2:19   ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16  2:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-16  2:49       ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16  3:25         ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 13:00       ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 13:53         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-16 13:59         ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 14:06           ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 14:23           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-16 14:26             ` Mark Lord
2009-08-19 20:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-20  1:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-20  1:10     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-20  1:38       ` Douglas Gilbert
2009-08-20  1:38       ` Mark Lord
2009-08-21 12:46     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-20  1:39   ` Mark Lord
2009-08-20 13:48     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-20 14:38       ` Mark Lord
2009-08-20 14:42         ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2009-08-20 17:19           ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-20 14:42         ` James Bottomley
2009-08-20 15:43         ` Rolf Eike Beer
2009-08-20 17:00           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-20 14:58       ` Douglas Gilbert

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