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From: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: adding proper O_SYNC/O_DSYNC, was Re: O_DIRECT and barriers
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:51:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A984337.7080009@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090828164106.GA9951@infradead.org>

On 08/28/2009 09:41 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Yeah.  The implementation really is trivial in 2.6.32 - we basically
> just need to change one function to check the new O_REALLY_SYNC flag
> and pass down a 0 instead of a 1 to another routine in the generic
> fs code, plus doing the same in a few filesystems opencoding it instead
> of using the generic helpers.

I don't think you have to change anything.  As I wrote before, the 
kernel ignores unknown O_* flags.  It's usually a problem.  Here it is a 
positive thing.


> So the logistics of doing the flags really is the biggest work here.
> And I'm not entirely sure how to do it correctly.  Can we just switch
> the current O_SYNC defintion in the kernel headers to O_DSYNC while
> adding the new O_SYNC and everything will continue to work?

No, that's not a good idea.  This would mean a program compiled with 
newer headers is using O_SYNC which isn't known to old kernels and 
ignored.  Such programs will then not even get the current O_DSYNC benefits.


> That includes a write from another process?  So O_RSYNC basically means
> doing an range-fdatasync before the actual read request?

Yes.  You can easily see how this can be useful.


> Again, we could implement this easily if we care enough.

I think it can be useful at times.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-28 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1250697884-22288-1-git-send-email-jack@suse.cz>
2009-08-20 22:12 ` O_DIRECT and barriers Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 11:40   ` Jens Axboe
2009-08-21 13:54     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-21 14:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 15:24         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-21 17:45           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 19:18             ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-22  0:50             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-22  2:19               ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-22  2:31                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-24  2:34               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-27 14:34                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-27 17:10                   ` adding proper O_SYNC/O_DSYNC, was " Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-27 17:24                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 15:46                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 16:06                         ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 16:17                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 16:33                             ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 16:41                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 20:51                                 ` Ulrich Drepper [this message]
2009-08-28 21:08                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 21:16                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2009-08-28 21:29                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 21:43                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-08-28 22:39                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-30 16:44                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:46                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-29  0:59                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:44                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:50                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 21:08                           ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-30 16:58                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-30 17:48                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 23:06                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 23:46                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 22:08         ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-21 22:38           ` Joel Becker
2009-08-21 22:45           ` Joel Becker
2009-08-22  2:11             ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-24  2:42               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-24  2:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-22  0:56           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-22  2:06             ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-26  6:34           ` Dave Chinner
2009-08-26 15:01             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-26 18:47               ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-27 14:50                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-21 14:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 15:06       ` James Bottomley
2009-08-21 15:23         ` Christoph Hellwig

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