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From: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
To: Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Americo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, stable@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	Serge Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, miltonm@bga.com, aeb@cwi.nl,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Restrict initial stack space expansion to rlimit
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:16:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B7481A6.7080300@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17323.1265779867@neuling.org>

On 02/10/2010 06:31 AM, Michael Neuling wrote:
> In message<20100210141016.4D18.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>  you wrote:
>>> On 02/09/2010 10:51 PM, Michael Neuling wrote:
>>>>>> I'd still like someone with a CONFIG_STACK_GROWSUP arch to test/ACK it
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's only one CONFIG_GROWSUP arch - parisc.
>>>>> Could someone please test it on parisc?
>>>
>>> I did.
>>>
>>>> How about doing:
>>>>     'ulimit -s 15; ls'
>>>> before and after the patch is applied.  Before it's applied, 'ls' should
>>>> be killed.  After the patch is applied, 'ls' should no longer be killed.
>>>>
>>>> I'm suggesting a stack limit of 15KB since it's small enough to trigger
>>>> 20*PAGE_SIZE.  Also 15KB not a multiple of PAGE_SIZE, which is a trickier
>>>> case to handle correctly with this code.
>>>>
>>>> 4K pages on parisc should be fine to test with.
>>>
>>> Mikey, thanks for the suggested test plan.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if your patch does it correct for parisc/stack-grows-up-case.
>>>
>>> I tested your patch on  a 4k pages kernel:
>>> root@c3000:~# uname -a
>>> Linux c3000 2.6.33-rc7-32bit #221 Tue Feb 9 23:17:06 CET 2010 parisc GNU/Li
> nux
>>>
>>> Without your patch:
>>> root@c3000:~# ulimit -s 15; ls
>>> Killed
>>> ->  correct.
>>>
>>> With your patch:
>>> root@c3000:~# ulimit -s 15; ls
>>> Killed
>>> _or_:
>>> root@c3000:~# ulimit -s 15; ls
>>> Segmentation fault
>>> ->  ??
>>>
>>> Any idea?
>>
>> My x86_64 box also makes segmentation fault. I think "ulimit -s 15" is too sm
> all stack for ls.
>> "ulimit -s 27; ls "  wroks perfectly fine.
>
> Arrh.  I asked Helge offline earlier to check what use to work on parisc
> on 2.6.31.
>
> I guess PPC has a nice clean non-bloated ABI :-D

Hi Mikey,

I tested again, and it works for me with "ulimit -s 27" as well (on a 4k, 32bit kernel).
Still, I'm not 100%  sure if your patch is correct.
Anyway, it seems to work.

But what makes me wonder is, why EXTRA_STACK_VM_PAGES is defined in pages at all.
You wrote in your patch description:
> This bug means that when limiting the stack to less the 20*PAGE_SIZE (eg.
> 80K on 4K pages or 'ulimit -s 79') all processes will be killed before
> they start.  This is particularly bad with 64K pages, where a ulimit below
> 1280K will kill every process.

Wouldn't it make sense to define and use EXTRA_STACK_VM_SIZE instead (e.g. as 20*4096 = 80k)?
This extra stack reservation should IMHO be independend of the actual kernel page size.

Helge

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-11 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3984.1265416993@neuling.org>
     [not found] ` <20100206042038.GB32246@kryten>
     [not found]   ` <10125.1265451732@neuling.org>
2010-02-08  0:07     ` [PATCH] Restrict stack space reservation to rlimit Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  0:28       ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  5:06       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  5:11         ` Anton Blanchard
2010-02-08  5:22           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  5:31             ` Anton Blanchard
2010-02-08  6:11               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  5:37             ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  6:05               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  7:07                 ` Américo Wang
2010-02-08  7:11                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-09  6:11                     ` [PATCH] Restrict initial stack space expansion " Michael Neuling
2010-02-09  6:46                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-09  8:59                         ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-09 21:25                           ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-09 21:51                             ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-09 22:27                               ` Helge Deller
2010-02-10  5:12                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-10  5:30                                   ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-10  5:31                                   ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-11 22:16                                     ` Helge Deller [this message]
2010-02-11 22:22                                       ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-08 10:45                 ` [PATCH] Restrict stack space reservation " Michael Neuling

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