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From: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: readahead on directories
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:13:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BCF5C87.8060509@cfl.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100421200104.GT27575@shareable.org>

On 4/21/2010 4:01 PM, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Ok, this discussion has got a bit confused.  Text above refers to
> needing to asynchronously read next block in a directory, but if they
> are small then that's not important.

It is very much important since if you ready each small directory one
block at a time, it is very slow.  You want to queue up reads to all of
them at once so they can be batched.

> FIEMAP suggestion is only if you think you need to issue reads for
> multiple blocks in the _same_ directory in parallel.  From what you say,
> I doubt that's important.

That may be why you suggested it, but it is also exactly what
readahead() does.  It also queues the read asynchronously which is what
I really want so that I can queue more reads on other directories in one
big batch.

> That was my first suggestion: threads with readdir(); I thought it had
> been rejected hence the further discussion.

Yes, it was sort of rejected, which is why I said it's just a workaround
for now until readahead() works on directories.  It will produce the
desired IO pattern but at the expense of ram and cpu cycles creating a
bunch of short lived threads that go to sleep almost immediately after
being created, and exit when they wake up.  readahead() would be much
more efficient.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-21 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-19 15:51 readahead on directories Phillip Susi
2010-04-21  0:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 14:57   ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 16:12     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 18:10       ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 20:22         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 20:59           ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 22:06             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-22  7:01               ` Brad Boyer
2010-04-22 14:26               ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-22 17:53                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-22 19:23                   ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-22 20:35                     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-22 21:22                       ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-22 22:43                         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-23  4:13                           ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 18:38       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2010-04-21 18:51         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 18:56           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2010-04-21 20:02             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 20:21               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2010-04-21 20:39                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 19:23           ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 20:01             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 20:13               ` Phillip Susi [this message]
2010-04-21 20:37                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-07 13:38 ` unified page and buffer cache? (was: readahead on directories) Phillip Susi
2010-05-07 13:53   ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-05-07 15:45     ` unified page and buffer cache? Phillip Susi
2010-05-07 18:30       ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-05-08  0:50         ` Phillip Susi
2010-05-08  0:46       ` tytso
2010-05-08  0:54         ` Phillip Susi
2010-05-08 12:52           ` tytso

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