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From: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: unified page and buffer cache?
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 11:45:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BE4359E.9020400@cfl.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100507135329.GA17259@parisc-linux.org>

On 5/7/2010 9:53 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> The problem you're seeing is aliasing in the page cache, not a failed
> unification of the buffer and page caches.  Pages are addressed by
> (mapping, offset).  Each inode generally has its own mapping.  Depending
> on the file system, directories may be addressed by their own inode's
> mapping, or by the block device's mapping.

If there are two mappings that don't know about each other, then the
caches don't seem very unified to me.  If I write to the file and that
data sits in the mapping for the inode, then I read the corresponding
blocks though the block device, and it has a different mapping, then I
read the old data off the disk instead of the new data in the cache.  I
thought that this exact problem had been fixed long ago.

> Resolving aliasing would be horribly expensive, so it's unlikely to
> happen.

Back to the drawing board I guess.  Maybe ext could be fixed to use an
inode mapping for directories instead of relying on the block device
mapping, then I could readahead() the directory instead of having to go
to the block device at all.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-07 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-19 15:51 readahead on directories Phillip Susi
2010-04-21  0:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 14:57   ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 16:12     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 18:10       ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 20:22         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 20:59           ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 22:06             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-22  7:01               ` Brad Boyer
2010-04-22 14:26               ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-22 17:53                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-22 19:23                   ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-22 20:35                     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-22 21:22                       ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-22 22:43                         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-23  4:13                           ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 18:38       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2010-04-21 18:51         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 18:56           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2010-04-21 20:02             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 20:21               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2010-04-21 20:39                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 19:23           ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 20:01             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 20:13               ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 20:37                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-07 13:38 ` unified page and buffer cache? (was: readahead on directories) Phillip Susi
2010-05-07 13:53   ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-05-07 15:45     ` Phillip Susi [this message]
2010-05-07 18:30       ` unified page and buffer cache? Matthew Wilcox
2010-05-08  0:50         ` Phillip Susi
2010-05-08  0:46       ` tytso
2010-05-08  0:54         ` Phillip Susi
2010-05-08 12:52           ` tytso

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