From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: "David P. Quigley" <dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: hch@infradead.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
casey@schaufler-ca.com, sds@tycho.nsa.gov,
matthew.dodd@sparta.com, trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no,
bfields@fieldses.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] NFSv4: Introduce new label structure
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:49:46 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C34BE3A.3050806@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1278519727.2494.92.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil>
On 07/ 7/10 12:22 PM, David P. Quigley wrote:
> Hello Chuck,
> Thank you for the comments. I'll go through and address them inline
> (Sorry for the top post).
>
> On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 12:01 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
>> My comments below apply to the other NFS client patches as well. This
>> seemed like the right one to use for code examples.
>>
>> On 07/ 7/10 10:31 AM, David P. Quigley wrote:
[ ... snipped ... ]
>> It seems to me you want something more generic, just like nfs_fh or
>> nfs_fattr, to represent these. Over time, I'm guessing label support
>> won't be tied to a specific NFS version. And, you are passing these
>> around in the generic NFS functions (for post-op updates and inode
>> revalidation, and what not).
>>
>> Can I recommend "struct nfs_seclabel" instead? Then have
>> nfs_seclabel_alloc() and nfs_seclabel_free().
>
> I can definitely rename them to be more generic. I don't see anything
> else besides NFSv4 using them but its fine with me to rename them. The
> reason we call them nfs4_label is because we modeled it after the NFSv4
> acl support code. I spoke with Christoph a long time ago and he
> suggested that it should be handled the same way that the NFSv4 ACLs are
> handled as opposed to the iattr thing we were trying.
>
>>
>> Does it make sense to deduplicate these in the client's memory? It
>> seems to me that you could have hundreds or thousands that all contain
>> the same label information.
>
> I don't think it is worth the effort. We are only using these structures
> until the security label is crammed into the inode. Once that happens
> they get freed. You shouldn't have them sitting around for very long.
OK, the lifetime of these things wasn't clear.
> They will be pulled again when the inode attributes expire and need to
> be revalidated. For things like SELinux you could argue that the LSM
> might benefit from this (and it might already do it but I'm not sure)
> but I think that is something to be handled by the LSM itself or the
> credentials code (since it already supports COW credentials it should be
> possible).
I think the lifetime of the label structure then is about the same as
the lifetime of an nfs_attr, and not at all the same as an ACL. I'm
just guessing here.
Would it then make sense to add a field that refers to the security
label to struct nfs_fattr instead? That might simplify or eliminate all
of the internal API changes.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-07 17:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-07 14:31 Labeled-NFS: Security Label support in NFSv4 David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 14:31 ` [PATCH 01/10] Security: Add hook to calculate context based on a negative dentry David P. Quigley
2010-07-08 12:51 ` Stephen Smalley
2010-07-07 14:31 ` [PATCH 02/10] Security: Add Hook to test if the particular xattr is part of a MAC model David P. Quigley
[not found] ` <1278513086-23964-3-git-send-email-dpquigl-+05T5uksL2qpZYMLLGbcSA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 16:49 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-07-07 14:31 ` [PATCH 03/10] LSM: Add flags field to security_sb_set_mnt_opts for in kernel mount data David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 14:31 ` [PATCH 04/10] SELinux: Add new labeling type native labels David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 23:23 ` James Morris
2010-07-08 13:31 ` David P. Quigley
2010-07-08 22:33 ` James Morris
2010-07-09 14:09 ` David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 14:31 ` [PATCH 05/10] KConfig: Add KConfig entries for Labeled NFS David P. Quigley
[not found] ` <1278513086-23964-6-git-send-email-dpquigl-+05T5uksL2qpZYMLLGbcSA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 16:56 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20100707165602.GC28815-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 17:05 ` David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 17:53 ` Chuck Lever
2010-07-07 14:31 ` [PATCH 06/10] NFSv4: Add label recommended attribute and NFSv4 flags David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 17:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-07-07 23:30 ` James Morris
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1007080928180.14102-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-08 13:39 ` David P. Quigley
2010-07-08 22:48 ` James Morris
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1007090834190.23354-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-09 13:47 ` Stephen Smalley
2010-07-09 14:05 ` David P. Quigley
[not found] ` <1278684348.2494.223.camel-88+Bj4OksMGWPftkNcioYDMZycKHmlmlfvIqQ387n9k@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-11 5:02 ` Kyle Moffett
[not found] ` <AANLkTinUO-xqvQQINTzKLcXnljq-RaN5X6ulEAqvuf0d-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-11 5:12 ` Casey Schaufler
2010-07-12 14:36 ` Stephen Smalley
[not found] ` <1278945396.5221.14.camel-i1KelmKhlFUEBZ0NE5PZeDSSxhlBfLG+Zkel5v8DVj8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-17 0:09 ` Kyle Moffett
2010-07-07 14:31 ` [PATCH 07/10] NFSv4: Introduce new label structure David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 16:01 ` Chuck Lever
[not found] ` <4C34A4F1.3060708-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 16:21 ` Casey Schaufler
[not found] ` <4C34A9A2.4080308-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 16:24 ` David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 17:42 ` Chuck Lever
2010-07-07 16:22 ` David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 17:49 ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2010-07-07 18:11 ` David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 14:31 ` [PATCH 08/10] NFS: Client implementation of Labeled-NFS David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 14:31 ` [PATCH 09/10] NFS: Extend NFS xattr handlers to accept the security namespace David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 14:31 ` [PATCH 10/10] NFSD: Server implementation of MAC Labeling David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 17:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20100707172100.GE28815-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 18:03 ` David P. Quigley
2010-07-07 19:24 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-07-08 13:27 ` David P. Quigley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-06-08 16:22 Labeled-NFS: Security Label support in NFSv4 David P. Quigley
[not found] ` <1276014176-20315-1-git-send-email-dpquigl-+05T5uksL2qpZYMLLGbcSA@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-08 16:22 ` [PATCH 07/10] NFSv4: Introduce new label structure David P. Quigley
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