From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>, "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] fix up lock order reversal in writeback
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:24:57 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CE56F79.9040807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CE56AA5.4030705@redhat.com>
On 11/18/10 12:04 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> On 11/18/10 11:10 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:55:18 -0600 Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Can we just delete writeback_inodes_sb_nr_if_idle() and
>>>> writeback_inodes_sb_if_idle()? The changelog for 17bd55d037a02 is
>>>> pretty handwavy - do we know that deleting these things would make a
>>>> jot of difference?
>>>
>>> Really? I thought it was pretty decent ;)
>>>
>>> Anyway, xfstests 204, "Test out ENOSPC flushing on small filesystems."
>>> shows the problem clearly, IIRC. I should have included that in the
>>> changelog, I suppose, sorry.
>>
>> Your email didn't really impart any information :(
>>
>> I suppose I could accidentally delete those nasty little functions in a
>> drivers/parport patch then wait and see if anyone notices.
>>
>
> Um, ok, then, to answer the question directly :
>
> No, please don't delete those functions, it will break ENOSPC handling
> in ext4 as shown by xfstests regression test #204 ...
Further -
What is going on here is that with delayed allocation, ext4 takes reservations
against free blocks based on the data blocks it must write out, and the
worst-case metadata that the writeout may take. Getting writeback failing
with ENOSPC would be bad.
But then we wind up with a bunch of unflushed writes sitting on huge
metadata reservations, and start hitting ENOSPC due to that worst-case
reservation. After a sync we have tons of free space again, because
the worst-case space reservations turned into usually best-case
reality.
That's what the function is used for; once we start filling up the
fs, we proactively flush data to free up the worst-case metadata
reservations.
Dropping it will put us back in the bad situation.
If there are other ideas to fix it, I'm all ears, but this worked.
-Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-18 18:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-16 11:00 [patch] fix up lock order reversal in writeback Nick Piggin
2010-11-16 13:01 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-17 4:30 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-17 4:38 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-17 5:05 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-17 6:10 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-18 3:06 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-18 3:29 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 6:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-18 6:28 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 8:18 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-18 10:51 ` Theodore Tso
2010-11-18 17:58 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-19 5:10 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-19 12:07 ` Theodore Tso
2010-11-18 14:55 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-18 17:10 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 18:04 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-18 18:24 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2010-11-18 18:39 ` Chris Mason
2010-11-18 18:36 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 18:51 ` Chris Mason
2010-11-18 20:22 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 20:36 ` Chris Mason
2010-11-18 19:02 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-18 20:17 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 18:33 ` Chris Mason
2010-11-18 23:58 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-19 0:45 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-19 5:16 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-22 18:16 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-23 8:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-23 13:32 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-23 8:15 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-18 18:53 ` Al Viro
2010-11-18 3:18 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-22 23:43 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-16 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17 3:56 ` Nick Piggin
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