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From: Sunil Mushran <sunil.mushran@oracle.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] fs: add SEEK_HOLE and SEEK_DATA flags
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:57:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DB1B37C.9070406@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DB1AF6F.4040706@redhat.com>

On 04/22/2011 09:40 AM, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 04/22/2011 10:28 AM, Sunil Mushran wrote:
>> while(1) {
>>      read(block);
>>      if (block_all_zeroes)
>>          lseek(SEEK_DATA);
>> }
>>
>> What's wrong with the above? If this is the case, even SEEK_HOLE
>> is not needed but should be added as it is already in Solaris.
> Because you don't know if the block is the same size as the minimum
> hole, and because some systems require rather large holes (my Solaris
> testing on a zfs system didn't have holes until 128k), that's a rather
> large amount of reading just to prove that the block has all zeros to
> know that it is even worth trying the lseek(SEEK_DATA).  My gut feel is
> that doing the lseek(SEEK_HOLE) up front coupled with seeking back to
> the same position is more efficient than manually checking for a run of
> zeros (less cache pollution, works with 4k read buffers without having
> to know filesystem hole size).

Holes are an implementation detail.

cp can read whatever blocksize it chooses. If that block contains
zero, it would signal cp that maybe it should SEEK_DATA and skip
reading all those blocks. That's all. We are not trying to achieve
perfection. We are just trying to reduce cpu waste.

If the fs supports SEEK_*, then great. If it does not, then it is no
worse than before.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-22 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-21 19:42 [PATCH 1/2] fs: add SEEK_HOLE and SEEK_DATA flags Josef Bacik
2011-04-21 19:42 ` [PATCH 2/2] Btrfs: implement our own ->llseek Josef Bacik
2011-04-21 20:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs: add SEEK_HOLE and SEEK_DATA flags Theodore Tso
2011-04-21 21:29   ` Sunil Mushran
2011-04-22  3:23   ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-04-22  4:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] ` <loom.20110422T001650-760@post.gmane.org>
     [not found]   ` <BANLkTiknb+hzFAjpwESwMcqMVtkFc0HFQQ@mail.gmail.com>
2011-04-22  4:50     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-22 11:28       ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-04-22 11:50         ` Eric Blake
2011-04-22 16:28           ` Sunil Mushran
2011-04-22 16:40             ` Eric Blake
2011-04-22 16:57               ` Sunil Mushran [this message]
2011-04-22 17:03                 ` Eric Blake
2011-04-22 17:08                   ` Sunil Mushran
2011-04-22 18:06                     ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-22 23:33                       ` Sunil Mushran
2011-04-24 17:49             ` Jamie Lokier
2011-04-25 12:37               ` Eric Blake
2011-04-25 14:15                 ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]         ` <20110422112852.GB1627-tLCgZGx+iJ+kxVt8IV0GqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-22 13:06           ` Eric Blake
2011-04-25 15:02             ` Nick Bowler
     [not found]               ` <20110425150227.GA10653-7BP4RkwGw0uXmMXjJBpWqg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-25 15:48                 ` Eric Blake
2011-04-22 20:10 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-04-22 20:49   ` Sunil Mushran
2011-04-25  3:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks

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