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From: Josef Bacik <josef@redhat.com>
To: Sunil Mushran <sunil.mushran@oracle.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfstests 255: add a seek_data/seek_hole tester
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:52:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0B666C.4000902@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E0B5C6F.3060803@oracle.com>

On 06/29/2011 01:10 PM, Sunil Mushran wrote:
> On 06/29/2011 12:40 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 04:53:07PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:33:19AM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote:
>>>> This is a test to make sure seek_data/seek_hole is acting like it
>>>> does on
>>>> Solaris.  It will check to see if the fs supports finding a hole or
>>>> not and will
>>>> adjust as necessary.
>>> So I just looked at this with an eye to validating an XFS
>>> implementation, and I came up with this list of stuff that the test
>>> does not cover that I'd need to test in some way:
>>>
>>>     - files with clean unwritten extents. Are they a hole or
>>>       data? What's SEEK_DATA supposed to return on layout like
>>>       hole-unwritten-data? i.e. needs to add fallocate to the
>>>       picture...
>>>
>>>     - files with dirty unwritten extents (i.e. dirty in memory,
>>>       not on disk). They are most definitely data, and most
>>>       filesystems will need a separate lookup path to detect
>>>       dirty unwritten ranges because the state is kept
>>>       separately (page cache vs extent cache).  Plenty of scope
>>>       for filesystem specific bugs here so needs a roubust test.
>> The discussion leading up to the resurrection of SEEK_HOLE/SEEK_DATA
>> was pretty much about that point.  The conclusion based on the Sun
>> documentation and common sense was that SEEK_DATA may only consider
>> unwritten extents as hole if the filesystem has a way to distinguish
>> plain unwritten extents and those that have been dirtied.  Else it
>> should be considered data.
>>
>> Testing for making sure dirty preallocated areas aren't wrongly
>> reported sounds relatively easy, the rest falls into implementation
>> details, which imho is fine.  Not reporting preallocated extents
>> as holes just is a quality of implementation issue and not a bug.
> 
> I agree. And if I might add my 2 cents that it would be much easier
> if we added another test that created files with all the worrisome boundary
> conditions and used SEEK_DATA/HOLE to copy the files and compared
> using md5sum. This would be far easier than one that expects a certain
> pos for each operation.

That's a great point, I think I will rig something like that up.  Thanks,

Josef

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-29 17:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-28 15:33 [PATCH 1/4] fs: add SEEK_HOLE and SEEK_DATA flags Josef Bacik
2011-06-28 15:33 ` [PATCH 2/4] Btrfs: implement our own ->llseek Josef Bacik
2011-06-28 15:33 ` [PATCH 3/4] Ext4: handle SEEK_HOLE/SEEK_DATA generically Josef Bacik
2011-06-28 15:33 ` [PATCH 4/4] fs: handle SEEK_HOLE/SEEK_DATA properly in all fs's that define their own llseek Josef Bacik
2011-06-28 15:33 ` [PATCH] xfstests 255: add a seek_data/seek_hole tester Josef Bacik
2011-06-29  6:53   ` Dave Chinner
2011-06-29  7:40     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:42       ` Pádraig Brady
2011-06-29 17:29         ` Sunil Mushran
2011-06-29 17:36           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 17:40             ` Sunil Mushran
2011-06-29 21:29           ` Pádraig Brady
2011-07-01  9:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 17:10       ` Sunil Mushran
2011-06-29 17:52         ` Josef Bacik [this message]
2011-06-29 13:19     ` Josef Bacik
2011-08-25  6:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-25  6:40     ` Dave Chinner
2011-08-25  6:51       ` Andreas Dilger
2011-08-26  1:35         ` Dave Chinner
2011-08-26  6:24           ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-26 14:41             ` Zach Brown
2011-08-27  8:30               ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-28 10:17                 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-30 17:42                 ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-31  1:17           ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-31  3:29             ` Dave Chinner
2011-08-31  3:53               ` david
2011-08-31  4:43               ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-31  9:05                 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-08-31  4:48               ` Dan Merillat
2011-07-29  9:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] fs: add SEEK_HOLE and SEEK_DATA flags Marco Stornelli
2011-08-20  9:41 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-20 10:03   ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-20 15:36     ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-20 16:32       ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-22  6:08         ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-22 10:56           ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-22 15:57             ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-22 17:56               ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-22 21:22                 ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-23 17:44                   ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-31  0:35                 ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]   ` <CAGpXXZ+xjhadprkc_LiP3qUypLLkCxdeEmo8+K+6mOnBuNhmLg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-08-20 17:18     ` Greg Freemyer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-06-27 18:02 Josef Bacik
2011-06-27 18:02 ` [PATCH] xfstests 255: add a seek_data/seek_hole tester Josef Bacik
2011-06-27 18:32   ` Andreas Dilger
2011-06-27 18:47     ` Josef Bacik

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