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From: Coly Li <i@coly.li>
To: djwong@us.ibm.com
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sunil Mushran <sunil.mushran@oracle.com>,
	Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>, Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] ext4 metadata checksumming design
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 01:46:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E4EA190.7080905@coly.li> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110817032519.GN20655@tux1.beaverton.ibm.com>

On 2011年08月17日 11:25, Darrick J. Wong Wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've created a page on the ext4 wiki outlining the patchset that I'm working on
> to add metadata checksumming to ext4.  The page can be found at this address:
> https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Metadata_Checksums
> 

Hi Darrick,

I just go through the proposal, have on objection for most of the text. Only some things want to confirm,
1) If a metadata_csum enabled file system is metadata_csum disabled, it should be better to mark the block group or
inode whether the existing (disabled) checksum is valid or not. So if people re-enable metadata_csum, we can save quite
a lot of time to re-build check sums for all metadata objects.
2) In no-journal mode, every time when we modify the metadata objects, we may have to hold a lock, calculate the check
sum, and release the lock, which may introduce performance regression. I hope this is only my unnecessary over worry.

BTW, an engineer in Taobao kernel team, is trying to count different meta data objects I/O in run time now. One of the
first efforts, is trying to unify a set of routines to read or dirty meta data object blocks. A.k.a something (might)
like ext4_read_ext_block(), ext4_read_idx_block(), ... etc. Then the counting routines can be added inside the meta data
object blocks I/O routines. So far, it seems the modification is not trivial, needs more study on the code. Anyway,
since you mentioned on the wiki page, just let you know what we are doing now :-)

P.S. The idea of meta data I/O counting is to help us understanding the I/O characteristic of our online servers running
Ext4 file systems, which is the basic material for further I/O performance optimization.

Thanks.
-- 
Coly Li

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-08-19 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-17  3:25 [RFC] ext4 metadata checksumming design Darrick J. Wong
2011-08-17 13:57 ` Andi Kleen
2011-08-17 17:09   ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-08-18  6:16 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-08-18 18:14   ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-08-18 21:53     ` Andreas Dilger
2011-08-18 23:00       ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-08-19 17:46 ` Coly Li [this message]
2011-08-22 18:11 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-08-23  2:35   ` Darrick J. Wong

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