From: Marco Stornelli <marco.stornelli@gmail.com>
To: Zach Brown <zab@zabbo.net>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Josef Bacik <josef@redhat.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, dchinner@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfstests 255: add a seek_data/seek_hole tester
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:17:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E5A15C0.3020205@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E58AB28.1080009@gmail.com>
Il 27/08/2011 10:30, Marco Stornelli ha scritto:
> Il 26/08/2011 16:41, Zach Brown ha scritto:
>>>> Hole: a range of the file that contains no data or is made up
>>>> entirely of NULL (zero) data. Holes include preallocated ranges of
>>>> files that have not had actual data written to them.
>>
>>> No for me. A hole is made up of zero data? It's a strange definition
>>> for me.
>>
>> It's a very natural definition for me. It mirrors the behaviour of
>> read() of sparse data inside i_size that file system authors already
>> have to consider.
>>
>> It's also a reminder for people that this interface is about avoiding
>> reading zeros. Systems that track contents can do this for files that
>> had tons of zeros written. The data is there but the app is
>> specifically asking us to skip it by using SEEK_DATA.
>>
>> - z
>>
>
> I think we need to consider a hole and "data not present/not written
> yet" as two different cases even they are related. For example, if I do
> an fallocate without keep size option, then I do a read, I have the same
> behavior of sparse data inside i_size, but the blocks are allocated so
> no sparse data in this case. Simply there are no difference from app
> point of view.
>
> Marco
Please don't care about the last part, when reading in this case the app
will have a return value different from zero obviously, I was under the
effect of a beer :) However I'd add to the definition, that we consider
holes only inside i_size, as Zack said. In this way, we haven't got any
ambiguity for preallocated space beyond eof.
Marco
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-28 10:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-28 15:33 [PATCH 1/4] fs: add SEEK_HOLE and SEEK_DATA flags Josef Bacik
2011-06-28 15:33 ` [PATCH 2/4] Btrfs: implement our own ->llseek Josef Bacik
2011-06-28 15:33 ` [PATCH 3/4] Ext4: handle SEEK_HOLE/SEEK_DATA generically Josef Bacik
2011-06-28 15:33 ` [PATCH 4/4] fs: handle SEEK_HOLE/SEEK_DATA properly in all fs's that define their own llseek Josef Bacik
2011-06-28 15:33 ` [PATCH] xfstests 255: add a seek_data/seek_hole tester Josef Bacik
2011-06-29 6:53 ` Dave Chinner
2011-06-29 7:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:42 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-06-29 17:29 ` Sunil Mushran
2011-06-29 17:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 17:40 ` Sunil Mushran
2011-06-29 21:29 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-07-01 9:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 17:10 ` Sunil Mushran
2011-06-29 17:52 ` Josef Bacik
2011-06-29 13:19 ` Josef Bacik
2011-08-25 6:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-25 6:40 ` Dave Chinner
2011-08-25 6:51 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-08-26 1:35 ` Dave Chinner
2011-08-26 6:24 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-26 14:41 ` Zach Brown
2011-08-27 8:30 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-28 10:17 ` Marco Stornelli [this message]
2011-08-30 17:42 ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-31 1:17 ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-31 3:29 ` Dave Chinner
2011-08-31 3:53 ` david
2011-08-31 4:43 ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-31 9:05 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-08-31 4:48 ` Dan Merillat
2011-07-29 9:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] fs: add SEEK_HOLE and SEEK_DATA flags Marco Stornelli
2011-08-20 9:41 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-20 10:03 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-20 15:36 ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-20 16:32 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-22 6:08 ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-22 10:56 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-22 15:57 ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-22 17:56 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-22 21:22 ` Sunil Mushran
2011-08-23 17:44 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-08-31 0:35 ` Dave Chinner
[not found] ` <CAGpXXZ+xjhadprkc_LiP3qUypLLkCxdeEmo8+K+6mOnBuNhmLg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-08-20 17:18 ` Greg Freemyer
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-06-27 18:02 Josef Bacik
2011-06-27 18:02 ` [PATCH] xfstests 255: add a seek_data/seek_hole tester Josef Bacik
2011-06-27 18:32 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-06-27 18:47 ` Josef Bacik
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