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From: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jeremy Allison <jra-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: copy offload support in Linux - new system call needed?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:30:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EE90753.6060700@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111214195931.GC10664@samba2>

On 12/14/2011 02:59 PM, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 02:22:07PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
>> Back at LinuxCon Prague, we talked about the new NFS and SCSI
>> commands that let us offload copy operations to a storage device
>> (like an NFS server or storage array).
>>
>> This got new life in the virtual machine world where you might want
>> to clone bulky guest files or ranges of blocks and was driven
>> through the standards bodies by vmware, microsoft and some of the
>> major storage vendors. Windows8 has this functionality fully coded
>> and integrated in the GUI, I assume vmware also uses it and there
>> are some vendors who announced support at the SNIA SDC conference.
>>
>> We had an active thread a couple of years back that came out of the
>> reflink work and, at the time, there seemed to be moderately
>> positive support for adding a new system call that would fit this
>> use case (Joel Becker's copyfile()).
>>
>> Can we resurrect this effort? Is copyfile() still a good way to go,
>> or should we look at other hooks?
> Windows uses a COPYCHUNK call, which specifies the
> following parameters:
>
> Definition of a copy "chunk":
>
> hyper source_off;
> hyper target_off;
> uint32 length;
>
> and an array of these chunks which is passed
> into their kernel.
>
> This is what we have to implement in Samba.
>
> Jeremy.

This is a public pointer to the draft NFS proposal:

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-lentini-nfsv4-server-side-copy-06.txt

The T10 site has some click through that I was not too happy about agreeing to. 
NetApp (Fred Knight) had some nice presentations that he presented about how 
SCSI does this in two different ways...

Ric



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  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-14 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-14 19:22 copy offload support in Linux - new system call needed? Ric Wheeler
2011-12-14 19:27 ` Al Viro
     [not found]   ` <20111214192739.GN2203-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-14 19:42     ` Ric Wheeler
     [not found]       ` <4EE8FC2E.3010207-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-14 22:27         ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-12-15 14:59           ` Trond Myklebust
2011-12-15 15:52             ` Chris Mason
2011-12-15 16:00               ` Trond Myklebust
2011-12-15 16:03               ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                 ` <20111215110330.33aed3a6-xSBYVWDuneFaJnirhKH9O4GKTjYczspe@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-15 16:06                   ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                     ` <1323965176.14317.11.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-15 16:16                       ` Jeff Layton
2011-12-15 16:38                         ` Trond Myklebust
2011-12-15 16:08             ` Loke, Chetan
     [not found]               ` <D3F292ADF945FB49B35E96C94C2061B91516E391-2s2rCY1e8UXHBhWB4kaBDUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-15 16:11                 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-12-15 16:40                   ` Loke, Chetan
2011-12-15 16:53                     ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                       ` <1323968015.14317.28.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-15 17:18                         ` Ric Wheeler
2011-12-15 17:25                           ` Trond Myklebust
2011-12-15 17:31                           ` Loke, Chetan
2011-12-15 17:55                             ` Ric Wheeler
2011-12-15 17:27                         ` Loke, Chetan
     [not found]             ` <1323961140.14317.2.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-15 17:44               ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-12-16  8:00       ` Joel Becker
2011-12-14 19:59 ` Jeremy Allison
2011-12-14 20:30   ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2011-12-19 12:38     ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-12-19 22:19   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-12-19 22:34     ` Jeremy Allison
2011-12-19 22:57     ` Dave Chinner
2011-12-19 23:29       ` H. Peter Anvin

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