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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
	Kamal Mostafa <kamal@canonical.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Surbhi Palande <csurbhi@gmail.com>,
	Valerie Aurora <val@vaaconsulting.com>,
	Christopher Chaltain <christopher.chaltain@canonical.com>,
	"Peter M. Petrakis" <peter.petrakis@canonical.com>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Surbhi Palande <surbhi.palande@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/7] Adding support to freeze and unfreeze a journal
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:08:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F0CFD2B.7010404@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120110213104.GI4516@quack.suse.cz>

On 1/10/12 3:31 PM, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Tue 10-01-12 14:20:23, Eric Sandeen wrote:

<snip>

>> Hrm let me think through this a little more; we actually do:
>>
>> t16) ext4_journal_start()
>>   t17) ext4_journal_start_sb()
>>     t18) handle = ext4_journal_current_handle();
>>     t19) if (!handle) vfs_check_frozen()
>>     t20) ... jbd2_journal_start()
>   Ah, right. I forgot.
> 
>> So actually we *do* block new handles, but let *existing* ones
>> continue (see commits 6b0310fbf087ad6e9e3b8392adca97cd77184084
>> and be4f27d324e8ddd57cc0d4d604fe85ee0425cba9)
>>
>> So your assertion that a new handle is started is incorrect
>> in general, isn't it?  So then does the fix seem necessary?
>> Or, at least, in the fashion below - maybe we need to just make
>> sure all started handles complete before the unlock_updates?
>> Or am I missing something...?
>   Well, the problem with running operations and freezing is more
> fundamental I believe. See my email
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=132585911925796&w=2
> 
> So I believe we'll need some better exclusion mechanism already in VFS.
> 
> 								Honza
> 

Yep, saw it, just wasn't sure if this patchset was still under active consideration.

Thanks,
-Eric


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-11  3:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-08 18:04 [PATCH v2 0/7] fix s_umount thaw/write and journal deadlock Kamal Mostafa
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] Adding support to freeze and unfreeze a journal Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-10 20:20   ` Eric Sandeen
2012-01-10 21:31     ` Jan Kara
2012-01-10 21:55       ` Surbhi Palande
     [not found]       ` <CAMBkX3eVeKSmEzmYTe6Oe_D6kAMQTL5LYoi1-Axj7CcrM85Pow@mail.gmail.com>
2012-01-11  0:04         ` Jan Kara
2012-01-11  0:13           ` Surbhi Palande
2012-01-11  0:51             ` Jan Kara
2012-01-11  3:08       ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2012-01-10 22:00     ` Surbhi Palande
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] Freeze and thaw the journal on ext4 freeze Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-06  0:32   ` Jan Kara
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] VFS: Fix s_umount thaw/write deadlock Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-06  1:50   ` Jan Kara
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] VFS: Rename and refactor writeback_inodes_sb_if_idle Kamal Mostafa
2011-12-13  3:34   ` Miao Xie
2011-12-15  7:10     ` Miao Xie
2011-12-16 20:48     ` Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-06  0:33   ` Jan Kara
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] VFS: Avoid read-write deadlock in try_to_writeback_inodes_sb Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-06  0:35   ` Jan Kara
2012-01-11 20:29     ` Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-12 15:53       ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] VFS: Document s_frozen state through freeze_super Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-06  0:36   ` Jan Kara
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] Documentation: Correct s_umount state for freeze_fs/unfreeze_fs Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-06  0:36   ` Jan Kara

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