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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
To: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh.poyarekar@gmail.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	vapier@gentoo.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Mark thread stack correctly in proc/<pid>/maps
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:14:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F47B781.2050300@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAHN_R2Awa5X3B09541grAPLkm9RzL9DnixUKFJXpz=1ZkPTFg@mail.gmail.com>

>> Sigh. No, I missed one thing. If application use
>> makecontext()/swapcontext() pair,
>> ESP is not reliable way to detect pthread stack. At that time the
>> stack is still marked
>> as anonymous memory.
>
> This is not wrong, because it essentially gives the correct picture of
> the state of that task -- the task is using another vma as a stack
> during that point and not the one it was allotted by pthreads during
> thread creation.
>
> I don't think we can successfully stick to the idea of trying to mark
> stack space allocated by pthreads but not used by any task *currently*
> as stack as long as the allocation happens outside the kernel space.
> The only way to mark this is either by marking the stack as
> VM_GROWSDOWN (which will make the stack grow and break some pthreads
> functions) or create a new flag, which a simple display such as this
> does not deserve. So it's best that this sticks to what the kernel
> *knows* is being used as stack.

Oh, maybe generically you are right. but you missed one thing. Before
your patch, stack or not stack are address space property. thus, using
/proc/pid/maps makes sense. but after your patch, it's no longer memory
property. applications can use heap or mapped file as a stack. then, at
least, current your code is wrong. the code assume each memory property
are exclusive.

Moreover, if pthread stack is unimportant, I wonder why we need this patch
at all. Which application does need it? and When?


  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-24 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-14 12:35 [PATCH] Mark thread stack correctly in proc/<pid>/maps Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-01-16 11:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-16 13:08   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-01-16 16:31     ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-16 17:01       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
     [not found]       ` <20120116163106.GC7180-DqlFc3psUjeg7Qil/0GVWOc42C6kRsbE@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-17  4:54         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-02  6:24           ` [RESEND][PATCH] " Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-02 21:40             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-02-03  7:09               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-03  8:01                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-02-03  9:49                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
     [not found]                   ` <CAHGf_=qA6EFue2-mNUg9udWV4xSx86XQsnyGV07hfZOUx6_egw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-03 10:29                     ` Mike Frysinger
2012-02-03 18:34                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-08  4:00                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-08 17:57                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]                           ` <4F32B776.6070007-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-11 10:19                             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-11 15:03                           ` [PATCH] " Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-21  4:24                             ` [RESEND][PATCH] " Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-22 23:00                               ` Andrew Morton
2012-02-23  4:03                                 ` [PATCH] " Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-23 20:22                                   ` Andrew Morton
2012-02-24 13:05                                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-23 23:47                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2012-02-24  5:47                                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-24 16:12                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2012-02-24 18:23                                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-23 23:17                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-02-24  0:49                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-02-24  5:29                               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2012-02-24 16:14                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2012-02-24 18:58                                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar

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