From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>, "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Zach Brown <zab@zabbo.net>, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] Don't do page stablization if !CONFIG_BLKDEV_INTEGRITY
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 12:50:42 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F591BA2.2080803@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120308203741.GE29510@shiny>
On 03/08/2012 12:37 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 12:20:26PM -0800, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
>> On 03/08/2012 10:09 AM, Chris Mason wrote:
>>>
>>> But, why are we writeback for a second or more? Aren't there other
>>> parts of this we would want to fix as well?
>>>
>>> I'm not against only turning on stable pages when they are needed, but
>>> the code that isn't the default tends to be somewhat less used. So it
>>> does increase testing burden when we do want stable pages, and it tends
>>> to make for awkward bugs that are hard to reproduce because someone
>>> neglects to mention it.
>>>
>>> IMHO it's much more important to nail down the 2 second writeback
>>> latency. That's not good.
>>>
>>
>> I think I understand this one. It's do to the sync nature introduced
>> by page_waiting in mkwrite.
>
> Pages go from dirty to writeback for a few reasons. Background
> writeout, or O_DIRECT or someone running sync
>
> background writeout shouldn't be queueing up so much work that
> synchronous writeout has a 2 second delay.
>
> If the latencies are coming from something that was run through
> fsync...well there's not too much we can do about that. The problem is
> that our page_mkwrite call isn't starting the IO it is just waiting on
> it, so we can't bump the priority on it.
>
I agree. I think the logger model is: write, than sync
Before they used to be waiting on the sync phase now their waiting
on write, when concurrent with sync. I would like to inspect this situation.
I agree with you that it's just shifting heaviness that is now hiding somewhere
else.
> -chris
Thanks
Boaz
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-08 20:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-07 23:40 [PATCH, RFC] Don't do page stablization if !CONFIG_BLKDEV_INTEGRITY Theodore Ts'o
2012-03-07 23:54 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-03-08 0:05 ` Darrick J. Wong
2012-03-08 2:18 ` Darrick J. Wong
2012-03-08 3:00 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 3:21 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 2:39 ` Zach Brown
2012-03-08 15:54 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-08 18:09 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-08 20:20 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 20:37 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-08 20:42 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-03-08 20:55 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-08 21:12 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-08 21:20 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-09 8:11 ` Dave Chinner
2012-03-08 20:50 ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2012-03-08 23:32 ` Dave Chinner
2012-03-08 21:24 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-08 21:38 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-08 21:41 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-09 1:02 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-09 1:08 ` Martin K. Petersen
2012-03-09 16:20 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-08 21:52 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 0:23 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 3:45 ` Martin K. Petersen
2012-03-08 4:37 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 6:27 ` Sage Weil
2012-03-08 15:43 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-08 16:36 ` Martin K. Petersen
2012-03-08 16:43 ` Sage Weil
2012-03-15 2:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-03-15 4:46 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-15 5:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
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