From: Steve Dickson <SteveD-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] vfs: make fstatat retry on ESTALE errors from getattr call
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:59:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F8D9375.9010209@RedHat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120417110219.0db9bdee-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
On 04/17/2012 11:02 AM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:27:16 +0200
> Miklos Szeredi <miklos-sUDqSbJrdHQHWmgEVkV9KA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Steve Dickson <SteveD-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>>> True, but even so... Giving file systems an opt-out option with the
>>> default being out, maybe still have some merit... Making file systems
>>> enable this new type of functionality would cut down on any of the
>>> "surprise" that might occur with this redo ;-)
>>
>> I've been arguing for something slightly different for quite some time:
>> I never liked errno values which have side effects in the kernel yet
>> might be visible to userspace.
>>
>> So why not introduce ERETRYSTALE, a *kernel internal* errno value that
>> userspace will never see and filesystems never accidentally set. The
>> VFS can turn this into ESTALE if it doesn't retry for some reason
>> (e.g. already retried).
>>
>
> That's possible but it's certainly a lot more invasive. It's also far
> more difficult for filesystems to opt-in to this sort of behavior.
>
> All of the places that call vfs_getattr, for instance will need to be
> fixed up to deal with that sort of error. That will also make it messy
> to do this in any sort of piecemeal fashion. We can't (for instance)
> convert NFSERR_STALE to -ESTALERETRY universally. We'll need to take
> great care only to return that to codepaths that are equipped to deal
> with it.
>
> Personally, I'd prefer not to foist so much code churn on any filesystem
> that might want to do this sort of retry, but I'll live with it if
> that's the consensus opinion...
>
I agree with Jeff.... Introducing a new errno is a bit of overkill.. IMHO...
steved.
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2012-04-13 11:25 [PATCH RFC] vfs: make fstatat retry on ESTALE errors from getattr call Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120413150518.GA1987@us.ibm.com>
2012-04-13 15:42 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-13 16:07 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <4F884F32.7010402-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-13 17:10 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-13 17:34 ` Peter Staubach
[not found] ` <2F609A9B-B44B-4CEA-BF35-D6BEDA729363-83r9SdEf25FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-13 23:00 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-14 0:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2012-04-15 19:03 ` Bernd Schubert
[not found] ` <4F8B1B7B.3040304-mPn0NPGs4xGatNDF+KUbs4QuADTiUCJX@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-15 19:27 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-16 14:23 ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-15 19:57 ` Chuck Lever
2012-04-16 11:23 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-17 11:53 ` Steve Dickson
2012-04-16 11:36 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120416073655.7cdb90cf-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-16 12:54 ` Peter Staubach
2012-04-16 16:04 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-16 14:44 ` Bernd Schubert
[not found] ` <4F8C3036.2030702-mPn0NPGs4xGatNDF+KUbs4QuADTiUCJX@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-16 17:46 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-16 19:33 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-16 19:43 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-16 20:25 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-16 23:05 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120416190548.2463d1d0-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17 11:46 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <4F8D580B.7060104-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17 13:36 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120417093643.7f172057-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17 14:14 ` Steve Dickson
2012-04-17 14:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-17 15:02 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120417110219.0db9bdee-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17 15:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <87aa2anys1.fsf-d8RdFUjzFsbxNFs70CDYszOMxtEWgIxa@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17 16:03 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-17 15:59 ` Steve Dickson [this message]
2012-04-17 13:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-17 13:32 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-17 14:03 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <87obqqo3qd.fsf-d8RdFUjzFsbxNFs70CDYszOMxtEWgIxa@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17 14:22 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120417093222.2ff5e1bd-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17 14:04 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-17 14:20 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120417102035.2236e553-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17 15:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20120417154549.GA27426-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17 16:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-17 13:39 ` Peter Staubach
2012-04-17 14:08 ` Myklebust, Trond
[not found] ` <1334671736.2963.30.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWJi5GlFTYi68DQmRywkZCB4@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17 14:48 ` Peter Staubach
[not found] ` <FA8A9A935BFD3A4D8F0CDA1C4F611BCC063CF8E132-0qHjP65cd0bRCIvD65MY1w@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18 15:16 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120416134642.1754cd3e-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-16 19:43 ` Scott Lovenberg
2012-04-16 16:55 ` [PATCH RFC v2] " Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <1334316311-22331-1-git-send-email-jlayton-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-13 12:02 ` [PATCH RFC] " Jim Rees
[not found] ` <20120413120232.GA27179-63aXycvo3TyHXe+LvDLADg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-13 12:09 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-18 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v3] vfs: make fstatat retry once " Jeff Layton
2012-04-20 14:40 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120420104055.511e15bc-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-20 20:18 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <4F91C49D.8070908-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-20 20:37 ` Malahal Naineni
2012-04-20 21:13 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-22 5:40 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <CAJfpegt40cgMJQQo3JuNaaS1w957Y2a_NxVoyvx3bmTMj1TGOA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 12:00 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120423080012.7c23ef24-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 13:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20120423130009.GA13681-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 13:12 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120423091255.00f926c4-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 13:34 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20120423133412.GB13681-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 13:50 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-23 13:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-23 14:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <87hawasdrb.fsf-d8RdFUjzFsbxNFs70CDYszOMxtEWgIxa@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 15:02 ` Chuck Lever
2012-04-23 15:23 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-23 17:45 ` Peter Staubach
2012-04-23 15:16 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-23 15:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-23 18:59 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-20 21:13 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120420171300.326d6e36-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 14:55 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <4F956D5C.5050801-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 15:32 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120423113216.01992555-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 18:06 ` Steve Dickson
2012-04-23 18:33 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <4F959A36.2080402-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 20:38 ` Peter Staubach
2012-04-24 14:50 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120424105049.5ed96b40-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 15:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-24 16:34 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120424123413.17625d5d-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25 9:41 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <87bomgkv1b.fsf-d8RdFUjzFsbxNFs70CDYszOMxtEWgIxa@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25 12:04 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-23 17:43 ` Peter Staubach
2012-04-23 19:06 ` Malahal Naineni
2012-04-22 4:16 ` Ric Wheeler
2012-04-23 11:20 ` Jeff Layton
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