From: Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Takuya Yoshikawa <takuya.yoshikawa@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
avi@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
yoshikawa.takuya@oss.ntt.co.jp
Subject: Re: [RFC] sched: make callers check lock contention for cond_resched_lock()
Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 10:43:16 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FA34244.4000405@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120503220050.e91938418f882b4075526e08@gmail.com>
On 05/03/2012 09:00 PM, Takuya Yoshikawa wrote:
> On Thu, 03 May 2012 14:29:10 +0200
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 21:22 +0900, Takuya Yoshikawa wrote:
>>> Although the real use case is out of this RFC patch, we are now discussing
>>> a case in which we may hold a spin_lock for long time, ms order, depending
>>> on workload; and in that case, other threads -- VCPU threads -- should be
>>> given higher priority for that problematic lock.
>>
>> Firstly, if you can hold a lock that long, it shouldn't be a spinlock,
>
> I agree with you in principle, but isn't cond_resched_lock() there for that?
>
>> secondly why isn't TIF_RESCHED being set if its running that long? That
>> should still make cond_resched_lock() break.
>
> I see.
>
> I did some tests using spin_is_contended() and need_resched() and saw
> that need_resched() was called as often as spin_is_contended(), so
> experimentally I understand your point.
>
> But as I could not see why spin_needbreak() was differently implemented
> depending on CONFIG_PREEMPT, I wanted to understand the meaning.
I think enable CONFIG_PREEMPT means allow preemption in kernel, so if
disabled, we can't reschedule a task if it is running in kernel not the
user space at a given time.
As the cond_resched_lock() was invoked in kernel, and looks like
cpu_relax() will give up cpu(I'm not sure whether this will invoke
schedule on some arch, just because that name...), so we can't do break
if CONFIG_PREEMPT disabled, because that will cause kernel preemption
while not allowed.
May be that's the reason why we need to consider CONFIG_PREEMPT in
spin_needbreak().
Regards,
Michael Wang
>
> Thanks,
> Takuya
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-04 2:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-03 8:12 [RFC] sched: make callers check lock contention for cond_resched_lock() Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-05-03 8:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-03 12:22 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-05-03 12:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-03 12:47 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-03 14:11 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-05-03 14:27 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-03 14:38 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-03 13:00 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-05-03 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-10 22:03 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-05-18 7:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-05-18 16:10 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-05-04 2:43 ` Michael Wang [this message]
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