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From: Nai Xia <nai.xia@gmail.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/5] refault distance-based file cache sizing
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 23:30:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB66B31.3020509@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FB665B8.8000300@redhat.com>



On 2012年05月18日 23:07, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On 05/17/2012 11:44 PM, Nai Xia wrote:
>
>> But I do think that Clock-pro deserves its credit, since after all
>> it's that research work firstly brought the idea of "refault/reuse
>> distance" to the kernel community.
>
> The ARC people did that, too.

Well, I think you said "take the good parts of clock-pro"...
Anyway, then I think you should credit either of the previous
works... :D

>
>> Further more, it's also good
>> to let the researchers and the community to together have some
>> brain-storm of this problem if it's really hard to deal with in
>> reality.
>
> How much are researchers interested in the real world
> constraints that OS developers have to deal with?

I think there will be nobody, if we don't try to let them
know about the constraints. Honestly, LKML are hard for
researchers to follow. They really need abstract view of
a problem. Surely there is a gap...between researchers and
developers.

>
> Often scalability is as much of a goal as being good
> at selecting the right page to replace...
>
Then scalability might be a good research topic as long
as they have the chance to understand the details.

Ok, all I want to say is another way that may help
the kernel world better. I am actually quite positive
about the patch itself.

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-18 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-01  8:41 [patch 0/5] refault distance-based file cache sizing Johannes Weiner
2012-05-01  8:41 ` [patch 1/5] mm: readahead: move radix tree hole searching here Johannes Weiner
2012-05-01 21:06   ` Rik van Riel
2012-05-01  8:41 ` [patch 2/5] mm + fs: prepare for non-page entries in page cache Johannes Weiner
2012-05-01 19:02   ` Andrew Morton
2012-05-01 20:15     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-05-01 20:24       ` Andrew Morton
2012-05-01 21:14         ` Rik van Riel
2012-05-01 21:29         ` Johannes Weiner
2012-05-01  8:41 ` [patch 3/5] mm + fs: store shadow pages " Johannes Weiner
2012-05-01  8:41 ` [patch 4/5] mm + fs: provide refault distance to page cache instantiations Johannes Weiner
2012-05-01  9:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-01  9:55     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-05-01  9:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-01  8:41 ` [patch 5/5] mm: refault distance-based file cache sizing Johannes Weiner
2012-05-01 14:13   ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-01 15:38     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-05-02  5:21       ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-02  1:57   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-05-02  6:23     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-05-02 15:11       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-05-01 19:08 ` [patch 0/5] " Andrew Morton
2012-05-01 21:19   ` Rik van Riel
2012-05-01 21:26     ` Andrew Morton
2012-05-02  1:10       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-05-03 13:15       ` Johannes Weiner
2012-05-16  5:25 ` nai.xia
2012-05-16  6:51   ` Johannes Weiner
2012-05-16 12:56     ` nai.xia
2012-05-17 21:08       ` Johannes Weiner
2012-05-18  3:44         ` Nai Xia
2012-05-18 15:07           ` Rik van Riel
2012-05-18 15:30             ` Nai Xia [this message]
2012-05-17 13:11   ` Rik van Riel
2012-05-18  5:03     ` Nai Xia

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