From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-aio@kvack.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Add vhost-blk support
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:02:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50056275.6000407@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120717124859.GA9883@redhat.com>
Il 17/07/2012 14:48, Michael S. Tsirkin ha scritto:
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 01:03:39PM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> Knowing the answer to that is important before anyone can say whether
>>>> this approach is good or not.
>>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> Why is it?
>>
>> Because there might be a fix to kvmtool which closes the gap. It
>> would be embarassing if vhost-blk was pushed just because no one
>> looked into what is actually going on.
>
> Embarrasing to whom? Is someone working on an optimization that
> makes the work in question redundant, with posting just around
> the corner? Then maybe the thing to do is just wait a bit.
Of course there is work going on to make QEMU perform better. Not sure
about lkvm.
>> And on the flipside, hard evidence of an overhead that cannot be
>> resolved could be good reason to do more vhost devices in the future.
>
> How can one have hard evidence of an overhead that cannot be resolved?
Since we do have two completely independent userspaces (lkvm and
data-plane QEMU), you can build up some compelling evidence of an
overhead that cannot be resolved in user space.
>> Either way, it's useful to do this before going further.
>
> I think each work should be discussed on its own merits. Maybe
> vhost-blk is just well written. So? What is your conclusion?
If it's just that vhost-blk is written well, my conclusion is that lkvm
people should look into improving their virtio-blk userspace. We take
hints from each other all the time, for example virtio-scsi will have
unlocked kick in 3.6.
Why can't vhost-* just get into staging, and we call it a day?
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-17 13:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-12 15:35 [PATCH 0/5] Add vhost-blk support Asias He
2012-07-12 15:35 ` [PATCH 1/5] aio: Export symbols and struct kiocb_batch for in kernel aio usage Asias He
2012-07-12 17:50 ` James Bottomley
2012-07-13 1:40 ` Asias He
2012-07-12 16:06 ` [PATCH 0/5] Add vhost-blk support Jeff Moyer
2012-07-13 1:19 ` Asias He
2012-07-16 11:58 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-07-17 8:29 ` Asias He
2012-07-17 8:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-17 9:21 ` Asias He
2012-07-17 9:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-17 9:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 11:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-07-17 11:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 11:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-07-17 11:51 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-07-17 11:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 12:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-07-17 12:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 13:02 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-07-17 13:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 8:47 ` Asias He
2012-07-18 8:12 ` Asias He
2012-07-18 8:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-07-18 9:46 ` Ronen Hod
2012-07-17 9:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 10:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-17 10:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 10:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-17 11:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 11:36 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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