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From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
To: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@onelan.co.uk>
Cc: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>,
	Matthew Helsley <matt.helsley@gmail.com>,
	aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, bfields@fieldses.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/7] fs, notify: Add file handle entry into inotify_inode_mark
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:13:41 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50A36ED5.4080505@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2105540.yeyMVrW4mH@deuteros>

On 11/14/2012 02:08 PM, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 November 2012 13:58:12 Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:50:55AM +0000, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>>> You could not use a pointer and then allocate your buffers on the
>>>>> check
>>>>> point operation, freeing on restore?
>>>>
>>>> The problem is not allocating the memory itself but rather the time when
>>>> the information needed (ie the dentry) is available. The only moment
>>>> when we can use dentry of the target file/directory is at
>>>> inotify_new_watch, that's why i need to compose fhandle that early. At
>>>> any later point we simply have no dentry to use.
>>>
>>> But you do not fundamentally need the dentry to restore a watch, right?
>>
>> dentry only needed to encode the file handle.
>>
>>> Couldn't you restore, creating a new restore path if needed, using the
>>> inode which is pinned anyway while the watch exists?
>>
>> plain inode is not enough as far as i can tell, iow i don't see the way
>> to restore path from inode solely. or there something i miss?
> 
> I don't know, as I said I was not following this at all until now. Just 
> throwing in ideas.
> 
> I thought, since inotify does not use the path or dentry outside the system 
> call at all, perhaps you need a different entry point allowing you to restore 
> the watch using the inode or something. Assuming life time of objects and 
> stuff in C&R world would allow you that. Since you don't need the full path, 
> just something 64 bytes long, I assumed that could be the case.

Well, the kernel already has all the API we need but one -- it shows us _nothing_
about the inode being watched. And we'd appreciate any information about it. Even
the ino:dev pair would work. We propose to show the handle because we believe, that
such API is better that ino:dev. You can get the handle, call the open_by_handle_at
right at once and get much much more information about the inode with any other
API (e.g. calling fstat() will give you the ino:dev pair). Having just ino:dev
pair at hands is not that flexible.

> Regards,
> 
> Tvrtko
> 
> .
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-14 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-12 10:14 [patch 0/7] Providing additional information in fdinfo sufficient for c/r Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 1/7] procfs: Add ability to plug in auxiliary fdinfo providers Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13  0:40   ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-13  7:03     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 2/7] fs, exportfs: Escape nil dereference if no s_export_op present Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 3/7] fs, notify: Add file handle entry into inotify_inode_mark Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13  0:55   ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-13  7:20     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13  7:40       ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-13  8:00         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13  8:19           ` David Rientjes
2012-11-13  8:29             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
     [not found]               ` <2910785.4Vm74eFJyi@deuteros>
2012-11-13 14:40                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13 15:02                   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-13 15:28                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-14  9:20                       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-14  9:38                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-14  9:50                           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-14  9:58                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-14 10:08                               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-14 10:13                                 ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2012-11-14 10:38                                   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-14 10:46                                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-11-14 10:54                                       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-14 10:56                                         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-11-14 11:03                                           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-14 11:12                                           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-14 12:45                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-14 13:03                                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-14 13:26                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-14 13:32                                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13 22:38           ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-14  6:46             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-14 10:10               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-11-14 10:13                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 4/7] fs, notify: Add procfs fdinfo helper v4 Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13  1:00   ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-13  7:22     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 5/7] fs, eventfd: Add procfs fdinfo helper Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 6/7] fs, epoll: Add procfs fdinfo helper v2 Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 7/7] fdinfo: Show sigmask for signalfd fd v2 Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13  1:05   ` Andrew Morton
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-09-12 21:29 [patch 0/7] auxiliary fdinfo, new round Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-09-12 21:29 ` [patch 3/7] fs, notify: Add file handle entry into inotify_inode_mark Cyrill Gorcunov

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