From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
To: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@onelan.co.uk>
Cc: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>,
Matthew Helsley <matt.helsley@gmail.com>,
aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, bfields@fieldses.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/7] fs, notify: Add file handle entry into inotify_inode_mark
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:13:41 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50A36ED5.4080505@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2105540.yeyMVrW4mH@deuteros>
On 11/14/2012 02:08 PM, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 November 2012 13:58:12 Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:50:55AM +0000, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>>> You could not use a pointer and then allocate your buffers on the
>>>>> check
>>>>> point operation, freeing on restore?
>>>>
>>>> The problem is not allocating the memory itself but rather the time when
>>>> the information needed (ie the dentry) is available. The only moment
>>>> when we can use dentry of the target file/directory is at
>>>> inotify_new_watch, that's why i need to compose fhandle that early. At
>>>> any later point we simply have no dentry to use.
>>>
>>> But you do not fundamentally need the dentry to restore a watch, right?
>>
>> dentry only needed to encode the file handle.
>>
>>> Couldn't you restore, creating a new restore path if needed, using the
>>> inode which is pinned anyway while the watch exists?
>>
>> plain inode is not enough as far as i can tell, iow i don't see the way
>> to restore path from inode solely. or there something i miss?
>
> I don't know, as I said I was not following this at all until now. Just
> throwing in ideas.
>
> I thought, since inotify does not use the path or dentry outside the system
> call at all, perhaps you need a different entry point allowing you to restore
> the watch using the inode or something. Assuming life time of objects and
> stuff in C&R world would allow you that. Since you don't need the full path,
> just something 64 bytes long, I assumed that could be the case.
Well, the kernel already has all the API we need but one -- it shows us _nothing_
about the inode being watched. And we'd appreciate any information about it. Even
the ino:dev pair would work. We propose to show the handle because we believe, that
such API is better that ino:dev. You can get the handle, call the open_by_handle_at
right at once and get much much more information about the inode with any other
API (e.g. calling fstat() will give you the ino:dev pair). Having just ino:dev
pair at hands is not that flexible.
> Regards,
>
> Tvrtko
>
> .
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-14 10:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-12 10:14 [patch 0/7] Providing additional information in fdinfo sufficient for c/r Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 1/7] procfs: Add ability to plug in auxiliary fdinfo providers Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13 0:40 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-13 7:03 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 2/7] fs, exportfs: Escape nil dereference if no s_export_op present Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 3/7] fs, notify: Add file handle entry into inotify_inode_mark Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13 0:55 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-13 7:20 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13 7:40 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-13 8:00 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13 8:19 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-13 8:29 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
[not found] ` <2910785.4Vm74eFJyi@deuteros>
2012-11-13 14:40 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13 15:02 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-13 15:28 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-14 9:20 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-14 9:38 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-14 9:50 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-14 9:58 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-14 10:08 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-14 10:13 ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2012-11-14 10:38 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-14 10:46 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-11-14 10:54 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-14 10:56 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-11-14 11:03 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-14 11:12 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2012-11-14 12:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-14 13:03 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-14 13:26 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-14 13:32 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13 22:38 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-14 6:46 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-14 10:10 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-11-14 10:13 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 4/7] fs, notify: Add procfs fdinfo helper v4 Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13 1:00 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-13 7:22 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 5/7] fs, eventfd: Add procfs fdinfo helper Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 6/7] fs, epoll: Add procfs fdinfo helper v2 Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-12 10:14 ` [patch 7/7] fdinfo: Show sigmask for signalfd fd v2 Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-13 1:05 ` Andrew Morton
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-09-12 21:29 [patch 0/7] auxiliary fdinfo, new round Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-09-12 21:29 ` [patch 3/7] fs, notify: Add file handle entry into inotify_inode_mark Cyrill Gorcunov
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