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From: Lin Feng <linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, mgorman@suse.de, bcrl@kvack.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, khlebnikov@openvz.org,
	walken@google.com, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	riel@redhat.com, rientjes@google.com,
	isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, jiang.liu@huawei.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] mm: hotplug: implement non-movable version of get_user_pages() to kill long-time pin pages
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 12:42:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51108DC8.4090704@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130205005859.GE2610@blaptop>

Hi Minchan,

On 02/05/2013 08:58 AM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 06:04:06PM +0800, Lin Feng wrote:
>> Currently get_user_pages() always tries to allocate pages from movable zone,
>> as discussed in thread https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/29/69, in some case users
>> of get_user_pages() is easy to pin user pages for a long time(for now we found
>> that pages pinned as aio ring pages is such case), which is fatal for memory
>> hotplug/remove framework.
>>
>> So the 1st patch introduces a new library function called
>> get_user_pages_non_movable() to pin pages only from zone non-movable in memory.
>> It's a wrapper of get_user_pages() but it makes sure that all pages come from
>> non-movable zone via additional page migration.
>>
>> The 2nd patch gets around the aio ring pages can't be migrated bug caused by
>> get_user_pages() via using the new function. It only works when configed with
>> CONFIG_MEMORY_HOTREMOVE, otherwise it uses the old version of get_user_pages().
> 
> CMA has same issue but the problem is the driver developers or any subsystem
> using GUP can't know their pages is in CMA area or not in advance.
> So all of client of GUP should use GUP_NM to work them with CMA/MEMORY_HOTPLUG well?
> Even some driver module in embedded side doesn't open their source code.
Yes, it somehow depends on the users of GUP. In MEMORY_HOTPLUG case, as for most users
of GUP, they will release the pinned pages immediately and to such users they should get
a good performance, using the old style interface is a smart way. And we had better just
deal with the cases we have to by using the new interface.
  
> 
> I would like to make GUP smart so it allocates a page from non-movable/non-cma area
> when memory-hotplug/cma is enabled(CONFIG_MIGRATE_ISOLATE). Yeb. it might hurt GUP
> performance but it is just trade-off for using CMA/memory-hotplug, IMHO. :(
As I debuged the get_user_pages(), I found that some pages is already there and may be
allocated before we call get_user_pages(). __get_user_pages() have following logic to
handle such case.
1786                         while (!(page = follow_page(vma, start, foll_flags))) {
1787                                 int ret;
To such case an additional alloc-flag or such doesn't work, it's difficult to keep GUP
as smart as we want :( , so I worked out the migration approach to get around and 
avoid messing up the current code :)

thanks,
linfeng 

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-05  4:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-04 10:04 [PATCH 0/2] mm: hotplug: implement non-movable version of get_user_pages() to kill long-time pin pages Lin Feng
2013-02-04 10:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: hotplug: implement non-movable version of get_user_pages() called get_user_pages_non_movable() Lin Feng
2013-02-05  0:06   ` Andrew Morton
2013-02-05  0:18     ` Andrew Morton
2013-02-05  3:09     ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05 21:13       ` Andrew Morton
2013-02-05 11:57     ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-05 13:32       ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-19 13:37         ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20  2:34           ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20  2:44             ` Wanpeng Li
2013-02-20  2:44             ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]             ` <20130220024435.GA30208@hacker.(null)>
2013-02-20  2:59               ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20  9:58         ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-20 10:23           ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20 11:31             ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-20 11:54               ` Lin Feng
2013-02-06  2:26       ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-02-06 10:41         ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-18 10:34       ` Lin Feng
2013-02-18 15:17         ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-19  9:55           ` Lin Feng
2013-02-19 10:34             ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-04 10:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs/aio.c: use get_user_pages_non_movable() to pin ring pages when support memory hotremove Lin Feng
2013-02-04 15:18   ` Jeff Moyer
2013-02-04 23:02     ` Zach Brown
2013-02-05  5:35       ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  5:06     ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  0:58 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: hotplug: implement non-movable version of get_user_pages() to kill long-time pin pages Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  4:42   ` Lin Feng [this message]
2013-02-05  5:25     ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  6:18       ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  7:45         ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  8:27           ` Lin Feng

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