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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Shrinnker <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>, <hughd@google.com>,
	<yinghan@google.com>, Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 26/28] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:48:43 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <515949EB.7020400@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <515945E3.9090809@jp.fujitsu.com>

>> +static int memcg_try_charge_kmem(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp, u64 size)
>> +{
>> +	int retries = MEM_CGROUP_RECLAIM_RETRIES;
> 
> I'm not sure this retry numbers, for anon/file LRUs is suitable for kmem.
> 
Suggestions ?

>> +	struct res_counter *fail_res;
>> +	int ret;
>> +
>> +	do {
>> +		ret = res_counter_charge(&memcg->kmem, size, &fail_res);
>> +		if (!ret)
>> +			return ret;
>> +
>> +		if (!(gfp & __GFP_WAIT))
>> +			return ret;
>> +
>> +		/*
>> +		 * We will try to shrink kernel memory present in caches. We
>> +		 * are sure that we can wait, so we will. The duration of our
>> +		 * wait is determined by congestion, the same way as vmscan.c
>> +		 *
>> +		 * If we are in FS context, though, then although we can wait,
>> +		 * we cannot call the shrinkers. Most fs shrinkers (which
>> +		 * comprises most of our kmem data) will not run without
>> +		 * __GFP_FS since they can deadlock. The solution is to
>> +		 * synchronously run that in a different context.
>> +		 */
>> +		if (!(gfp & __GFP_FS)) {
>> +			/*
>> +			 * we are already short on memory, every queue
>> +			 * allocation is likely to fail
>> +			 */
>> +			memcg_stop_kmem_account();
>> +			schedule_work(&memcg->kmemcg_shrink_work);
>> +			flush_work(&memcg->kmemcg_shrink_work);
>> +			memcg_resume_kmem_account();
>> +		} else if (!try_to_free_mem_cgroup_kmem(memcg, gfp))
>> +			congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
> 
> Why congestion_wait() ? I think calling congestion_wait() in vmscan.c is
> a part of memory-reclaim logic but I don't think the caller should do
> this kind of voluteer wait without good reason..
> 
> 

Although it is not the case with dentries (or inodes, since only
non-dirty inodes goes to the lru list), some objects we are freeing may
need time to be written back to disk. This is the case for instance with
the buffer heads and bio's. They will not be actively shrunk in
shrinkers, but it is my understanding that they will be released. Inodes
as well, may have time to be written back and become non-dirty.

In practice, in my tests, this would almost-always fail after a retry if
we don't wait, and almost always succeed in a retry if we do wait.

Am I missing something in this interpretation ?

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-01  8:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-29  9:13 [PATCH v2 00/28] memcg-aware slab shrinking Glauber Costa
     [not found] ` <1364548450-28254-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29  9:13   ` [PATCH v2 01/28] super: fix calculation of shrinkable objects for small numbers Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1364548450-28254-2-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  7:16       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-29  9:13   ` [PATCH v2 02/28] vmscan: take at least one pass with shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  7:26     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:10       ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]         ` <515940E4.8050704-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10  5:09           ` Ric Mason
2013-04-10  7:32             ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-10  9:19             ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-08  8:42     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-08  8:47       ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08  9:01         ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-08  9:05           ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09  0:55             ` Joonsoo Kim
     [not found]               ` <20130409005547.GC21654-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09  1:29                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-09  2:05                   ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09  7:43                     ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                       ` <5163C6A5.5050307-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09  9:08                         ` Joonsoo Kim
     [not found]                     ` <20130409020505.GA4218-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09 12:30                       ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10  2:51                         ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-10  7:30                           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                             ` <51651518.4010007-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10  8:19                               ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-10  8:46                           ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]                           ` <20130410025115.GA5872-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10  8:46                             ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]                           ` <20130410084606.GA10235@hacker.(null)>
2013-04-10 10:07                             ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10 14:03                               ` JoonSoo Kim
     [not found]                                 ` <CAAmzW4OMyZ=nVbHK_AiifPK5LVxvhOQUXmsD5NGfo33CBjf=eA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-11  0:41                                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-11  7:27                                     ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-11  7:27                                     ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]                                     ` <20130411072729.GA3605@hacker.(null)>
2013-04-11  9:25                                       ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 03/28] dcache: convert dentry_stat.nr_unused to per-cpu counters Glauber Costa
2013-04-05  1:09   ` Greg Thelen
     [not found]     ` <xr93r4ipkcl0.fsf-aSPv4SP+Du0KgorLzL7FmE7CuiCeIGUxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-05  1:15       ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-08  9:14         ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 13:18           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]           ` <51628A88.2090002-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08 23:26             ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-09  8:02               ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                 ` <5163CB0D.1040000-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09 12:47                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 04/28] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 05/28] dcache: remove dentries from LRU before putting on dispose list Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1364548450-28254-6-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-03  6:51     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-04-03  8:55       ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-04  6:19       ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-04  6:56         ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 06/28] mm: new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-04-05  1:09   ` Greg Thelen
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 07/28] shrinker: convert superblock shrinkers to new API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 08/28] list: add a new LRU list type Glauber Costa
2013-04-04 21:53   ` Greg Thelen
2013-04-05  1:20     ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-05  8:01       ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-06  0:04         ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 09/28] inode: convert inode lru list to generic lru list code Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 10/28] dcache: convert to use new lru list infrastructure Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 13:14   ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <5162C2C4.7010807-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08 23:28       ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 11/28] list_lru: per-node " Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 12/28] shrinker: add node awareness Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 13/28] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 14/28] xfs: convert buftarg LRU to generic code Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 15/28] xfs: convert dquot cache lru to list_lru Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 16/28] fs: convert fs shrinkers to new scan/count API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 17/28] drivers: convert shrinkers to new count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 18/28] shrinker: convert remaining shrinkers to " Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 19/28] hugepage: convert huge zero page shrinker to new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 20/28] shrinker: Kill old ->shrink API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 21/28] vmscan: also shrink slab in memcg pressure Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  7:46   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:51     ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1364548450-28254-22-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-03 10:11     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-04-03 10:43       ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-04  9:35         ` Sha Zhengju
2013-04-05  8:25           ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 22/28] memcg,list_lru: duplicate LRUs upon kmemcg creation Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1364548450-28254-23-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  8:05     ` [PATCH v2 22/28] memcg, list_lru: " Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:22       ` [PATCH v2 22/28] memcg,list_lru: " Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 23/28] lru: add an element to a memcg list Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  8:18   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 24/28] list_lru: also include memcg lists in counts and scans Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 25/28] list_lru: per-memcg walks Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 26/28] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  8:31   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:48     ` Glauber Costa [this message]
     [not found]       ` <515949EB.7020400-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  9:01         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  9:14           ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  9:35           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 27/28] list_lru: reclaim proportionaly between memcgs and nodes Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 28/28] super: targeted memcg reclaim Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 12:38 ` [PATCH v2 00/28] memcg-aware slab shrinking Serge Hallyn
2013-04-01 12:45   ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <51598168.4050404-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 14:12       ` Serge Hallyn
2013-04-08  8:11         ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-02  4:58   ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-02  7:55     ` Glauber Costa

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