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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/26] get_user_pages() cleanup
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:42:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <524F282B.2080809@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <524F2592.1040305@gmail.com>

(10/4/13 4:31 PM), KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> (10/2/13 4:29 PM), Jan Kara wrote:
>> On Wed 02-10-13 09:20:09, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 04:27:41PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
>>>>     Hello,
>>>>
>>>>     In my quest for changing locking around page faults to make things easier for
>>>> filesystems I found out get_user_pages() users could use a cleanup.  The
>>>> knowledge about necessary locking for get_user_pages() is in tons of places in
>>>> drivers and quite a few of them actually get it wrong (don't have mmap_sem when
>>>> calling get_user_pages() or hold mmap_sem when calling copy_from_user() in the
>>>> surrounding code). Rather often this actually doesn't seem necessary. This
>>>> patch series converts lots of places to use either get_user_pages_fast()
>>>> or a new simple wrapper get_user_pages_unlocked() to remove the knowledge
>>>> of mmap_sem from the drivers. I'm still looking into converting a few remaining
>>>> drivers (most notably v4l2) which are more complex.
>>>
>>> Even looking over the kerneldoc comment next to it I still fail to
>>> understand when you'd want to use get_user_pages_fast and when not.
>>     AFAIU get_user_pages_fast() should be used
>> 1) if you don't need any special get_user_pages() arguments (like calling
>>      it for mm of a different process, forcing COW, or similar).
>> 2) you don't expect pages to be unmapped (then get_user_pages_fast() is
>> actually somewhat slower because it walks page tables twice).
>
> If target page point to anon or private mapping pages, get_user_pages_fast()
> is fork unsafe. O_DIRECT man pages describe a bit about this.
>
>
> see http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/open.2.html
>
>>        O_DIRECT I/Os should never be run concurrently with the fork(2)
>>        system call, if the memory buffer is a private mapping (i.e., any
>>        mapping created with the mmap(2) MAP_PRIVATE flag; this includes
>>        memory allocated on the heap and statically allocated buffers).  Any
>>        such I/Os, whether submitted via an asynchronous I/O interface or
>>        from another thread in the process, should be completed before
>>        fork(2) is called.  Failure to do so can result in data corruption
>>        and undefined behavior in parent and child processes.  This
>>        restriction does not apply when the memory buffer for the O_DIRECT
>>        I/Os was created using shmat(2) or mmap(2) with the MAP_SHARED flag.
>>        Nor does this restriction apply when the memory buffer has been
>>        advised as MADV_DONTFORK with madvise(2), ensuring that it will not
>>        be available to the child after fork(2).

IMHO, get_user_pages_fast() should be renamed to get_user_pages_quirk(). Its
semantics is not equal to get_user_pages(). When someone simply substitute
get_user_pages() to get_user_pages_fast(), they might see huge trouble.


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-04 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-02 14:27 [PATCH 0/26] get_user_pages() cleanup Jan Kara
2013-10-02 14:28 ` [PATCH 26/26] aio: Remove useless get_user_pages() call Jan Kara
2013-10-02 16:20 ` [PATCH 0/26] get_user_pages() cleanup Christoph Hellwig
2013-10-02 20:29   ` Jan Kara
2013-10-04 20:31     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-10-04 20:42       ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2013-10-07 21:18         ` Jan Kara
2013-10-08  0:27           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-10-08  6:06             ` Jan Kara

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