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From: Steve French <smfrench@gmail.com>
To: Jeremy Allison <jra@samba.org>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	samba-technical <samba-technical@lists.samba.org>
Subject: Re: ext4 - getting at birth time (file create time) and getting/setting nanosecond time stamps and utime
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:37:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <524f69650910191237w1ec3b6efoef1f21d00e737cf4@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091019185855.GC15201@samba1>

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Jeremy Allison <jra@samba.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:55:29PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>>
>> As for _updating_ create time, isn't that sort of defeating the purpose
>> of create time?
>
> Yes, you would think so, wouldn't you. Unfortunately that's
> the way Windows behaves (create time can be updated) so that's
> what we have to emulate. If does indeed make no sense (it's
> just another timestamp meta-data that can't be used for auditing
> at that point).

Updating create time does make it harder to use for auditing, but
I expect that 20 years ago when this was added someone was thinking
about making sure you could preserve all attributes on backup/restore
especially for a system restore after disk failure - and end up with
the same file metadata as when you started.


-- 
Thanks,

Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-19 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-19 17:17 ext4 - getting at birth time (file create time) and getting/setting nanosecond time stamps and utime Steve French
2009-10-19 18:55 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-10-19 18:58   ` Jeremy Allison
2009-10-19 19:37     ` Steve French [this message]
2009-10-19 19:12   ` Zach Brown
2009-10-19 20:49     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-19 19:45   ` Steve French
2009-10-19 20:11     ` Andreas Dilger
2009-10-19 22:24       ` Steve French
2009-10-19 23:12         ` Andreas Dilger
2009-10-20  3:31           ` Steve French
2009-10-20 12:44           ` jim owens
2009-10-20 20:33             ` Andreas Dilger
2009-10-20 20:49               ` Steve French
2009-10-20 20:59                 ` Sunil Mushran
2009-10-20 21:11                   ` Steve French
2009-10-20 21:23                     ` Sunil Mushran
2009-10-20 21:37                       ` Steve French
2009-10-20 21:49                         ` Sunil Mushran
2009-10-20 21:56                           ` Steve French
2009-10-20 22:16                             ` Sunil Mushran
2009-10-21 23:45                               ` Mingming
2009-10-21 11:59                     ` Henrik Nordstrom
2009-10-21 15:36                       ` Steve French
2009-10-21 18:56                         ` Brad Boyer
2009-10-21 23:03                         ` Björn Jacke
2009-10-22 21:50                           ` Steve French
2009-10-21  0:44                 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-10-21 23:42                   ` Mingming
2009-10-20 21:10               ` jim owens
2009-10-20  0:41   ` Mingming

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