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From: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Howard Chu <hyc@symas.com>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Chinmay V S <cvs268@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG <s.priebe@profihost.ag>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	matthew@wil.cx
Subject: Re: Why is O_DSYNC on linux so slow / what's wrong with my SSD?
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 18:01:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <529133CC.4070904@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131123203600.GA791@amd.pavel.ucw.cz>

On 11/23/2013 03:36 PM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Wed 2013-11-20 08:02:33, Howard Chu wrote:
>> Theodore Ts'o wrote:
>>> Historically, Intel has been really good about avoiding this, but
>>> since they've moved to using 3rd party flash controllers, I now advise
>>> everyone who plans to use any flash storage, regardless of the
>>> manufacturer, to do their own explicit power fail testing (hitting the
>>> reset button is not good enough, you need to kick the power plug out
>>> of the wall, or better yet, use a network controlled power switch you
>>> so you can repeat the power fail test dozens or hundreds of times for
>>> your qualification run) before being using flash storage in a mission
>>> critical situation where you care about data integrity after a power
>>> fail event.
>> Speaking of which, what would you use to automate this sort of test?
>> I'm thinking an SSD connected by eSATA, with an external power
>> supply, and the host running inside a VM. Drop power to the drive at
>> the same time as doing a kill -9 on the VM, then you can resume the
>> VM pretty quickly instead of waiting for a full reboot sequence.
> I was just pulling power on sata drive.
>
> It uncovered "interesting" stuff. I plugged power back, and kernel
> re-estabilished communication with that drive, but any settings with
> hdparm were forgotten. I'd say there's some room for improvement
> there...
>
> 								Pavel

Hi Pavel,

When you drop power, your drive normally loses temporary settings (like a change 
to write cache, etc).

Depending on the class of the device, there are ways to make that permanent 
(look at hdparm or sdparm for details).

This is a feature of the drive and its firmware, not something we reset in the 
device each time it re-appears.

Ric


  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-23 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-20 12:12 Why is O_DSYNC on linux so slow / what's wrong with my SSD? Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2013-11-20 12:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-20 13:34   ` Chinmay V S
2013-11-20 13:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-20 14:12     ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2013-11-20 15:22       ` Chinmay V S
2013-11-20 15:37         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-20 15:55           ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-20 17:11             ` Chinmay V S
2013-11-20 17:58               ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-20 18:43                 ` Chinmay V S
2013-11-21 10:11                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-22 20:01                     ` Stefan Priebe
2013-11-22 20:37                       ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-22 21:05                         ` Stefan Priebe
2013-11-23 18:27                         ` Stefan Priebe
2013-11-23 19:35                           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-23 19:48                             ` Stefan Priebe
2013-11-25  7:37                             ` Stefan Priebe
2020-01-08  6:58                             ` slow sync performance on LSI / Broadcom MegaRaid performance with battery cache Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2013-11-22 19:57             ` Why is O_DSYNC on linux so slow / what's wrong with my SSD? Stefan Priebe
2013-11-24  0:10               ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-11-20 16:02           ` Howard Chu
2013-11-23 20:36             ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-23 23:01               ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2013-11-24  0:22                 ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-24  1:03                   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-11-24  2:43                   ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-22 19:55         ` Stefan Priebe

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