linux-fsdevel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <mkp@mkp.net>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: status of block-integrity
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 16:28:45 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52CBBABD.50902@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq11u134rmt.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net>

On 12/23/2013 09:35 PM, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
>>>>>> "Christoph" == Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> writes:
> Christoph> We have the block integrity code to support DIF/DIX in the
> Christoph> the tree for about 5 and a half years, and we still don't
> Christoph> have a single consumer of it.
>
> What do you mean? If you have a DIX-capable HBA (lpfc, qla2xxx, zfcp)
> then integrity protection is active from the block layer down. The only
> code that's not currently being exercised are the tag interleaving
> functions.  I was hoping the FS people would use them for back pointers
> but nobody seemed to bite.
>
>
> Christoph> Given that we'll have a lot of work to do in this area with
> Christoph> block multiqueue I think it's time to either kill it off for
> Christoph> good or make sure we can actually use and test it.
>
> I don't understand why multiqueue would require a lot of work? It's just
> an extra scatterlist per request.
>
> And obviously, if there's anything that needs to be done in this area
> I'll be happy to do so...
>

One of the major knocks on linux file systems (except for btrfs) that I hear is 
the lack of full data path checksums. DIF/DIX + xfs or ext4 done right will give 
us another answer here.  I don't think it will be common, it is a request that 
comes in for very large storage customers most commonly.

We do have devices that support this and are working to get more vendor testing 
done, so I would hate to see us throw out the code instead of fixing it up for 
the end users that see value here.

I think that we can get this working & agree with the call to continue this 
discussion (here and at LSF :))

Ric

       reply	other threads:[~2014-01-07  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20131222192128.GA28532@infradead.org>
     [not found] ` <yq11u134rmt.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net>
2014-01-07  8:28   ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2014-01-07 13:33     ` status of block-integrity Hannes Reinecke
2014-01-07 23:34       ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-01-08  0:05         ` James Bottomley
2014-01-08 15:43           ` Martin K. Petersen

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=52CBBABD.50902@gmail.com \
    --to=ricwheeler@gmail.com \
    --cc=axboe@kernel.dk \
    --cc=hch@infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mkp@mkp.net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).