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From: "Stefan (metze) Metzmacher" <metze@samba.org>
To: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk-manpages <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
	samba-technical@lists.samba.org,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeremy Allison <jra@google.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ganesha NFS List <nfs-ganesha-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: should we change the name/macros of file-private locks?
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:42:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <534F0745.70705@samba.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgNAkgqZDcT0jda8XS+4HrJzXjzwehqciHbkNuAVY3fNkH4zQ@mail.gmail.com>

Am 16.04.2014 22:00, schrieb Michael Kerrisk (man-pages):
> [CC += Jeremy Allison]
> 
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Sorry to spam so many lists, but I think this needs widespread
>> distribution and consensus.
>>
>> File-private locks have been merged into Linux for v3.15, and *now*
>> people are commenting that the name and macro definitions for the new
>> file-private locks suck.
>>
>> ...and I can't even disagree. They do suck.
>>
>> We're going to have to live with these for a long time, so it's
>> important that we be happy with the names before we're stuck with them.
> 
> So, to add my perspective: The existing byte-range locking system has
> persisted (despite egregious faults) for well over two decades. One
> supposes that Jeff's new improved version might be around
> at least as long. With that in mind, and before setting in stone (and
> pushing into POSIX) a model of thinking that thousands of programmers
> will live with for a long time, it's worth thinking about names.
> 
>> Michael Kerrisk suggested several names but I think the only one that
>> doesn't have other issues is "file-associated locks", which can be
>> distinguished against "process-associated" locks (aka classic POSIX
>> locks).
> 
> The names I have suggested are:
> 
>     file-associated locks
> 
> or
> 
>    file-handle locks
> 
> or (using POSIX terminology)
> 
>     file-description locks

I'd use file-handle, file-description or at least something that's
not associated to the "file" itself.

file-handle-associated or file-description-associated would also work.

> but that last might be a bit confusing to people who are not
> standards-aware. (The POSIX standard defines the thing that a "file
> descriptor" refers to as a "file description"; other people often call
> that thing a "file handle" or an "open file table entry" or a "struct
> file". The POSIX term is precise and unambiguous, but, unfortunately,
> the term is not common outside the standard and is also easily
> mistaken for "file descriptor".)
> 
>> At the same time, he suggested that we rename the command macros since
>> the 'P' suffix would no longer be relevant. He suggested something like
>> this:
>>
>>     F_FA_GETLK
>>     F_FA_SETLK
>>     F_FA_SETLKW

With file-description-associated this could be

F_FDA_*

metze

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-16 22:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-16 18:57 should we change the name/macros of file-private locks? Jeff Layton
2014-04-16 20:00 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-16 20:16   ` Jeremy Allison
2014-04-17  0:31     ` Re: [Nfs-ganesha-devel] " Jim Lieb
2014-04-17  5:43       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-16 22:42   ` Stefan (metze) Metzmacher [this message]
2014-04-17 11:52     ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-17 12:04       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-17 20:08         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-17 23:47           ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-17 15:17       ` Stefan (metze) Metzmacher

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