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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, samba-technical@lists.samba.org,
	Ganesha NFS List <nfs-ganesha-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
	libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"Stefan (metze) Metzmacher" <metze@samba.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locks: rename file-private locks to file-description locks
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 20:18:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5355610A.6090606@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140421124508.4f2c9ca7@tlielax.poochiereds.net>

Jeff,
On 04/21/2014 06:45 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 12:10:04 -0400
> Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 04:23:54PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>> On 04/21/2014 04:02 PM, Rich Felker wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 09:45:35AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
[...]
>>>    initial preference, and I also suggested "file-description locks"
>>>    and noted the drawbacks of that term. I think it's insufficient
>>>    to say "stick with the existing poor name"--if you have
>>>    something better, then please propose it. (Note by the way
>>>    that for nearly a decade now, the open(2) man page has followed
>>>    POSIX in using the term "open file description. Full disclosure:
>>>    of course, I'm responsible for that change in the man page.)
>>
>> I'm well aware of that. The problem is that the proposed API is using
>> the two-letter abbreviation FD, which ALWAYS means file descriptor and
>> NEVER means file description (in existing usage) to mean file
>> description. That's what's wrong.
>>
> 
> Fair enough. Assuming we kept "file-description locks" as a name, what
> would you propose as new macro names?

I assume you meant, "assume we kept the term 'file-private locks'..."
In that case, at least make the constants something like

F_FP_SETLK
F_FP_SETLKW
F_FP_GETLK

so that they are not confused with the traditional constants.

Cheer,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-21 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-21 13:45 [PATCH] locks: rename file-private locks to file-description locks Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 14:02 ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 14:23   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 16:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-21 16:42       ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 17:03       ` [Nfs-ganesha-devel] " Frank Filz
2014-04-21 18:20       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 16:10     ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 16:45       ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 18:01         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-21 18:43           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 18:18         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2014-04-21 18:32           ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 18:48             ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 19:16               ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 20:22                 ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 18:32       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 18:34         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-21 18:39           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 18:46         ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 19:39           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 19:55             ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 21:15               ` Stefan (metze) Metzmacher
2014-04-22  4:54                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-27  4:51                   ` NeilBrown
2014-04-27  9:14                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-27  9:16                     ` flock() and NFS [Was: Re: [PATCH] locks: rename file-private locks to file-description locks] Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                       ` <535CCAD2.4060304-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-27 10:04                         ` NeilBrown
     [not found]                           ` <20140427200431.426c98d1-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-27 11:11                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                               ` <CAKgNAkgv5NqDRUNu0XtSABqmctd7=rpMMEYhhDQNzPssZuU5bA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-27 21:28                                 ` NeilBrown
2014-04-29  9:07                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-29  9:24                                     ` NeilBrown
     [not found]                                       ` <20140429192458.641ebf1d-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29  9:53                                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                           ` <535F76A4.4090208-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 11:34                                             ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-29 12:20                                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-28 10:23                     ` [PATCH] locks: rename file-private locks to file-description locks Jeff Layton
2014-04-28 10:46                       ` NeilBrown
2014-04-21 18:48         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-21 18:51           ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 19:04             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-21 19:06               ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-21 20:10                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 20:20               ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 14:25 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 16:05 ` Stefan (metze) Metzmacher

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