From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Kleikamp <dave.kleikamp@oracle.com>,
Zach Brown <zab@zabbo.net>, Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
Kent Overstreet <kmo@daterainc.com>,
open@kvack.org, list@kvack.org:AIO <linux-aio@kvack.org>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/9] block: loop: convert to blk-mq
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:50:37 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53F3B89D.6070703@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACVXFVN6W-AAQ6g4LXHOyvMzU+EAmj_YYBEuYRnoSB+VqCJg8A@mail.gmail.com>
On 2014-08-18 06:53, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>>> On 2014-08-16 02:06, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 8/16/14, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/15/2014 10:36 AM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/15/2014 10:31 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +static void loop_queue_work(struct work_struct *work)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Offloading work straight to a workqueue dosn't make much sense
>>>>>>> in the blk-mq model as we'll usually be called from one. If you
>>>>>>> need to avoid the cases where we are called directly a flag for
>>>>>>> the blk-mq code to always schedule a workqueue sounds like a much
>>>>>>> better plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a good point - would clean up this bit, and be pretty close to a
>>>>>> one-liner to support in blk-mq for the drivers that always need blocking
>>>>>> context.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Something like this should do the trick - totally untested. But with
>>>>> that, loop would just need to add BLK_MQ_F_WQ_CONTEXT to it's tag set
>>>>> flags and it could always do the work inline from ->queue_rq().
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think it is a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> But for loop, there may be two problems:
>>>>
>>>> - default max_active for bound workqueue is 256, which means several slow
>>>> loop devices might slow down whole block system. With kernel AIO, it won't
>>>> be a big deal, but some block/fs may not support direct I/O and still
>>>> fallback to
>>>> workqueue
>>>>
>>>> - 6. Guidelines of Documentation/workqueue.txt
>>>> If there is dependency among multiple work items used during memory
>>>> reclaim, they should be queued to separate wq each with WQ_MEM_RECLAIM.
>>>
>>>
>>> Both are good points. But I think this mainly means that we should support
>>> this through a potentially per-dispatch queue workqueue, separate from
>>> kblockd. There's no reason blk-mq can't support this with a per-hctx
>>> workqueue, for drivers that need it.
>>
>> Good idea, and per-device workqueue should be enough if
>> BLK_MQ_F_WQ_CONTEXT flag is set.
>
> Maybe for most of cases per-device class(driver) workqueue should be
> enough since dependency between devices driven by same driver
> isn't common, for example, loop over loop is absolutely insane.
It's insane, but it can happen. And given how cheap it is to do a
workqueue, I don't see a reason why we should not. Loop over loop might
seem nutty, but it's not that far out into the realm of nutty things
that people end up doing.
> I will keep the work queue in loop-mq V2, and it should be easy to switch
> to the mechanism once it is ready.
Reworked a bit more:
http://git.kernel.dk/?p=linux-block.git;a=commit;h=a323185a761b9a54dc340d383695b4205ea258b6
Lets base loop-mq on the blk-mq workqueues, it would simplify it quite a
bit and I don't think there's much point in doing v1 and then ripping it
out for v2. Especially since it isn't queued up for 3.18 yet.
--
Jens Axboe
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-19 20:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-14 15:50 [PATCH v1 0/9] block & aio: kernel aio and loop mq conversion Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] aio: add aio_kernel_() interface Ming Lei
2014-08-14 18:07 ` Zach Brown
2014-08-15 13:20 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 2/9] fd/direct-io: introduce should_dirty for kernel aio Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] blk-mq: export blk_mq_freeze_queue and blk_mq_unfreeze_queue Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] blk-mq: introduce init_flush_rq_fn callback in 'blk_mq_ops' Ming Lei
2014-08-15 16:19 ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-16 7:49 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-17 18:39 ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] block: loop: convert to blk-mq Ming Lei
2014-08-15 16:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-15 16:36 ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-15 16:46 ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-16 8:06 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-17 17:48 ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-18 1:22 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-18 11:53 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-19 20:50 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
[not found] ` <CACVXFVP_q2MfZtjPAgXrjMJS2K6H2fTFtAe3ZJXBW83uEovqkQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-20 16:09 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <CACVXFVPxXrYi+m0bC7tEcfvDzhQ=Xnapkd+yGRXbKCktgi3Ofw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-21 2:58 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <CACVXFVNEuEOXphJK5XGbAGRC9tL7iTv=PE_v+Dnw3CReAEkonw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-21 3:16 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <CACVXFVOR0mzMWo+iPtU8jUvYgH+non=hQ0XaP0Z1Fu0qiSbJNA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-27 16:08 ` Maxim Patlasov
2014-08-27 16:29 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-08-27 17:19 ` Maxim Patlasov
2014-08-27 17:56 ` Zach Brown
2014-08-28 2:10 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-28 2:06 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-29 11:14 ` Maxim Patlasov
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 6/9] block: loop: say goodby to bio Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] block: loop: introduce lo_discard() and lo_req_flush() Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] block: loop: don't handle REQ_FUA explicitly Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] block: loop: support to submit I/O via kernel aio based Ming Lei
2014-08-14 16:53 ` [PATCH v1 0/9] block & aio: kernel aio and loop mq conversion Jens Axboe
2014-08-15 12:59 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-15 13:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-15 14:32 ` Ming Lei
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2014-08-29 10:41 [PATCH v1 5/9] block: loop: convert to blk-mq Maxim Patlasov
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