From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Kleikamp <dave.kleikamp@oracle.com>,
Zach Brown <zab@zabbo.net>, Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
Kent Overstreet <kmo@daterainc.com>,
open@kvack.org, list@kvack.org:AIO <linux-aio@kvack.org>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/9] block: loop: convert to blk-mq
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:16:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53F56486.6060509@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACVXFVNEuEOXphJK5XGbAGRC9tL7iTv=PE_v+Dnw3CReAEkonw@mail.gmail.com>
On 2014-08-20 22:13, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>> On 2014-08-20 21:54, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From my investigation, context switch increases almost 50% with
>>>>> workqueue compared with kthread in loop in a quad-core VM. With
>>>>> kthread, requests may be handled as batch in cases which won't be
>>>>> blocked in read()/write()(like null_blk, tmpfs, ...), but it is
>>>>> impossible
>>>>> with
>>>>> workqueue any more. Also block plug&unplug should have been used
>>>>> with kthread to optimize the case, especially when kernel AIO is
>>>>> applied,
>>>>> still impossible with work queue too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, that one is actually a good point, since one need not do per-item
>>>> queueing. We could handle different units, though. And we should have
>>>> proper
>>>> marking of the last item in a chain of stuff, so we might even be able to
>>>> offload based on that instead of doing single items. It wont help the
>>>> sync
>>>> case, but for that, workqueue and kthread would be identical.
>>>
>>>
>>> We may do that by introducing callback of queue_rq_list in blk_mq_ops,
>>> and I will figure out one patch today to see if it can help the case.
>>
>>
>> I don't think we should add to the interface, I prefer keeping it clean like
>> it is right now. At least not if we can get around it. My point is that the
>> driver already knows when the chain is complete, when REQ_LAST is set. So
>> before that event triggers, it need not kick off IO, or at least i could do
>> it in batches before that. That may not be fully reliable in case of
>> queueing errors, but if REQ_LAST or 'error return' is used as the way to
>> kick off pending IO, then that should be good enough. Haven't audited this
>> in a while, but at least that is the intent of REQ_LAST.
>
> Yes, I thought of too, but driver need another context for handling that,
> either workqueue or kthread, which may cause the introduced per-device
> workqueue useless.
Yeah, if we are going to go this route instead, then it may make more
sense to have a ->commit() hook to compliment ->queue_rq(). ->queue_rq()
would then continue to run like it is now, and ->commit() would offload
the pieces to a workqueue. Or we'd just do this on REQ_LAST. Same sort
of thing, just handled a bit differently.
--
Jens Axboe
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-21 3:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-14 15:50 [PATCH v1 0/9] block & aio: kernel aio and loop mq conversion Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] aio: add aio_kernel_() interface Ming Lei
2014-08-14 18:07 ` Zach Brown
2014-08-15 13:20 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 2/9] fd/direct-io: introduce should_dirty for kernel aio Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] blk-mq: export blk_mq_freeze_queue and blk_mq_unfreeze_queue Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] blk-mq: introduce init_flush_rq_fn callback in 'blk_mq_ops' Ming Lei
2014-08-15 16:19 ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-16 7:49 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-17 18:39 ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] block: loop: convert to blk-mq Ming Lei
2014-08-15 16:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-15 16:36 ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-15 16:46 ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-16 8:06 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-17 17:48 ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-18 1:22 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-18 11:53 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-19 20:50 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <CACVXFVP_q2MfZtjPAgXrjMJS2K6H2fTFtAe3ZJXBW83uEovqkQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-20 16:09 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <CACVXFVPxXrYi+m0bC7tEcfvDzhQ=Xnapkd+yGRXbKCktgi3Ofw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-21 2:58 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <CACVXFVNEuEOXphJK5XGbAGRC9tL7iTv=PE_v+Dnw3CReAEkonw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-21 3:16 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
[not found] ` <CACVXFVOR0mzMWo+iPtU8jUvYgH+non=hQ0XaP0Z1Fu0qiSbJNA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-27 16:08 ` Maxim Patlasov
2014-08-27 16:29 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-08-27 17:19 ` Maxim Patlasov
2014-08-27 17:56 ` Zach Brown
2014-08-28 2:10 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-28 2:06 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-29 11:14 ` Maxim Patlasov
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 6/9] block: loop: say goodby to bio Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] block: loop: introduce lo_discard() and lo_req_flush() Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] block: loop: don't handle REQ_FUA explicitly Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] block: loop: support to submit I/O via kernel aio based Ming Lei
2014-08-14 16:53 ` [PATCH v1 0/9] block & aio: kernel aio and loop mq conversion Jens Axboe
2014-08-15 12:59 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-15 13:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-15 14:32 ` Ming Lei
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2014-08-29 10:41 [PATCH v1 5/9] block: loop: convert to blk-mq Maxim Patlasov
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