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From: Maxim Patlasov <mpatlasov@parallels.com>
To: Zach Brown <zab@zabbo.net>
Cc: Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
	"axboe@kernel.dk" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Kleikamp <dave.kleikamp@oracle.com>,
	Kent Overstreet <kmo@daterainc.com>,
	open list: AIO <linux-aio@kvack.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, ;
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/9] block: loop: convert to blk-mq
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:41:15 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <540058CB.2030704@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20140827175605.GE12827@lenny.home.zabbo.net

On 8/28/14, Zach Brown<zab@zabbo.net>  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 09:19:36PM +0400, Maxim Patlasov wrote:
>> On 08/27/2014 08:29 PM, Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 08:08:59PM +0400, Maxim Patlasov wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> 1) /dev/loop0 of 3.17.0-rc1 with Ming's patches applied -- 11K iops
>>>> 2) the same as above, but call loop_queue_work() directly from
>>>> loop_queue_rq() -- 270K iops
>>>> 3) /dev/nullb0 of 3.17.0-rc1 -- 380K iops
>>>>
>>>> Taking into account so big difference (11K vs. 270K), would it be
>>>> worthy
>>>> to implement pure non-blocking version of aio_kernel_submit() returning
>>>> error if blocking needed? Then loop driver (or any other in-kernel
>>>> user)
>>>> might firstly try that non-blocking submit as fast-path, and, only if
>>>> it's failed, fall back to queueing.
>>> What filesystem is the backing file for loop0 on?  O_DIRECT access as
>>> Ming's patches use should be non-blocking, and if not, that's something
>>> to fix.
>> I used loop0 directly on top of null_blk driver (because my goal was to
>> measure the overhead of processing requests in a separate thread).
> The relative overhead while doing nothing else.  While zooming way down
> in to micro benchmarks is fun and all, testing on an fs on brd might be
> more representitive and so more compelling.

The measurements on an fs on brd are even more outrageous (the same fio 
script I posted a few messages above):

1) Baseline. no loopback device involved.

fio on /dev/ram0:                           467K iops
fio on ext4 over /dev/ram0:                 378K iops

2) Loopback device from 3.17.0-rc1 with Ming's patches (v1) applied:

fio on /dev/loop0 over /dev/ram0:            10K iops
fio on ext4 over /dev/loop0 over /dev/ram0:   9K iops

3) the same as above, but avoid extra context switch (call 
loop_queue_work() directly from loop_queue_rq()):

fio on /dev/loop0 over /dev/ram0:           267K iops
fio on ext4 over /dev/loop0 over /dev/ram0: 223K iops

The problem is not about huge relative overhead while doing nothing 
else. It's rather about introducing extra latency (~100 microseconds on 
commodity h/w I used) which might be noticeable on modern SSDs (and h/w 
RAIDs with caching).

Thanks,
Maxim

             reply	other threads:[~2014-08-29 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-29 10:41 Maxim Patlasov [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-08-14 15:50 [PATCH v1 0/9] block & aio: kernel aio and loop mq conversion Ming Lei
2014-08-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] block: loop: convert to blk-mq Ming Lei
2014-08-15 16:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-15 16:36     ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-15 16:46       ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-16  8:06         ` Ming Lei
2014-08-17 17:48           ` Jens Axboe
2014-08-18  1:22             ` Ming Lei
2014-08-18 11:53               ` Ming Lei
2014-08-19 20:50                 ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                   ` <CACVXFVP_q2MfZtjPAgXrjMJS2K6H2fTFtAe3ZJXBW83uEovqkQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-20 16:09                     ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                       ` <CACVXFVPxXrYi+m0bC7tEcfvDzhQ=Xnapkd+yGRXbKCktgi3Ofw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-21  2:58                         ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                           ` <CACVXFVNEuEOXphJK5XGbAGRC9tL7iTv=PE_v+Dnw3CReAEkonw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-21  3:16                             ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                   ` <CACVXFVOR0mzMWo+iPtU8jUvYgH+non=hQ0XaP0Z1Fu0qiSbJNA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-27 16:08                     ` Maxim Patlasov
2014-08-27 16:29                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-08-27 17:19                         ` Maxim Patlasov
2014-08-27 17:56                           ` Zach Brown
2014-08-28  2:10                             ` Ming Lei
2014-08-28  2:06                       ` Ming Lei
2014-08-29 11:14                         ` Maxim Patlasov

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