From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Zack Coffey <clickwir@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: ext4 vs btrfs performance on SSD array
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:40:47 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5405C8DF.7080602@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA8KC9Lgjf_FBXnKAaJtp6=NCWsoCFOobgi5b84BXfAcbgynJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I wholeheartedly agree. Of course, getting something other than CFQ as
the default I/O scheduler is going to be a difficult task. Enough
people upstream are convinced that we all NEED I/O priorities, when most
of what I see people doing with them is bandwidth provisioning, which
can be done much more accurately (and flexibly) using cgroups.
Ironically, there have been a lot of in-kernel defaults that I have run
into issues with recently, most of which originated in the DOS era,
where a few MB of RAM was high-end.
On 2014-09-02 08:55, Zack Coffey wrote:
> While I'm sure some of those settings were selected with good reason,
> maybe there can be a few options (2 or 3) that have some basic
> intelligence at creation to pick a more sane option.
>
> Some checks to see if an option or two might be better suited for the
> fs. Like the RAID5 stripe size. Leave the default as is, but maybe a
> quick speed test to automatically choose from a handful of the most
> common values. If they fail or nothing better is found, then apply the
> default value just like it would now.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 10:08:22AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>> Pretty obvious difference: avgrq-sz. btrfs is doing 512k IOs, ext4
>>> and XFS are doing is doing 128k IOs because that's the default block
>>> device readahead size. 'blockdev --setra 1024 /dev/sdd' before
>>> mounting the filesystem will probably fix it.
>>
>> Btw, it's really getting time to make Linux storage fs work out the
>> box. There's way to many things that are stupid by default and we
>> require everyone to fix up manually:
>>
>> - the ridiculously low max_sectors default
>> - the very small max readahead size
>> - replacing cfq with deadline (or noop)
>> - the too small RAID5 stripe cache size
>>
>> and probably a few I forgot about. It's time to make things perform
>> well out of the box..
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Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <CAEp=YLgzsLbmEfGB5YKVcHP4CQ-_z1yxnZ0tpo7gjKZ2e1ma5g@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20140902000822.GA20473@dastard>
2014-09-02 1:22 ` ext4 vs btrfs performance on SSD array Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-02 10:39 ` Zack Coffey
2014-09-02 11:31 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-02 14:20 ` Jan Kara
2014-09-02 14:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-02 12:55 ` Zack Coffey
2014-09-02 13:40 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
2014-09-03 0:01 ` NeilBrown
2014-09-05 16:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-05 16:40 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-05 16:50 ` Jens Axboe
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