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From: Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com>
To: Dmitry Monakhov <dmonlist@gmail.com>,
	<lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Cc: <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] Working towards better power fail testing
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 12:17:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B55322.5030002@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r3uy3931.fsf@openvz.org>

On 01/13/2015 12:05 PM, Dmitry Monakhov wrote:
> Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com> writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We have been doing pretty well at populating xfstests with loads of
>> tests to catch regressions and validate we're all working properly.  One
>> thing that has been lacking is a good way to verify file system
>> integrity after a power fail.  This is a core part of what file systems
>> are supposed to provide but it is probably the least tested aspect.  We
>> have dm-flakey tests in xfstests to test fsync correctness, but these
>> tests do not catch the random horrible things that can go wrong.  We are
>> still finding horrible scary things that go wrong in Btrfs because it is
>> simply hard to reproduce and test for.
>>
>> I have been working on an idea to do this better, some may have seen my
>> dm-power-fail attempt, and I've got a new incarnation of the idea thanks
>> to discussions with Zach Brown.  Obviously there will be a lot changing
>> in this area in the time between now and March but it would be good to
>> have everybody in the room talking about what they would need to build a
>> good and deterministic test to make sure we're always giving a
>> consistent file system and to make sure our fsync() handling is working
>> properly.  Thanks,
> I've submitted generic/019 long time ago. Test is fine and helps to
> uncover several bugs, But it is not ideal because currently power failure
> simulation (via fail_make_request) is not not completely atomic
> So I would like to attend to discussion how we can implement power
> failure simulation completely atomic.
>

Yeah I did the first dm-flakey tests and extended that some.  These are 
good baselines but I've hit a few bugs recently in btrfs that would have 
required us to crash at exactly the right spot to hit which is what I 
want to try and build for.  Something we can run through all the 
possible crash scenarios to make sure we're always leaving a consistent fs.

> BTW I also would like to share hw-flush utility (which our QA team use for
> use power-fail/SSD-cache testing) and harness for it.
>

That would be super cool, the more testing we can have around making 
sure we're waiting for stuff properly and flushing caches properly the 
better.  Thanks,

Josef

      reply	other threads:[~2015-01-13 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-08 22:11 [LSF/MM TOPIC] Working towards better power fail testing Josef Bacik
2014-12-10 11:27 ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2014-12-10 15:09   ` Josef Bacik
2015-01-05 18:34     ` Sage Weil
2015-01-05 19:02       ` Brian Foster
2015-01-05 19:13         ` Sage Weil
2015-01-05 19:33           ` Brian Foster
2015-01-05 21:17       ` Jan Kara
2015-01-05 21:47       ` Dave Chinner
2015-01-05 22:26         ` Sage Weil
2015-01-05 23:27           ` Dave Chinner
2015-01-06 17:37             ` Sage Weil
2015-01-06  8:53         ` Jan Kara
2015-01-06 16:39           ` Josef Bacik
2015-01-06 22:07           ` Dave Chinner
2015-01-07 10:10             ` Jan Kara
2015-01-13 17:05 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2015-01-13 17:17   ` Josef Bacik [this message]

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