From: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>
Cc: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
adilger@dilger.ca, david@fromorbit.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Support for write stream IDs
Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 19:50:48 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <554A4668.7040804@plexistor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq1fv7ar81d.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net>
On 05/06/2015 01:09 AM, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
>>>>>> "Jens" == Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com> writes:
<>
>
> The only sensible solution is for the kernel to manage the stream
> IDs. And for them to be plentiful. The storage device is free to ignore
> them, do LRU or whatever it pleases to manage them if it has an internal
> limit on number of open streams, etc.
>
Sometimes you do not have control over the "storage device" firmware
and/or it is already too late. But in such a case the LLD of the device
can do the state management (open/close) and translation (LRU).
If there are a lot of broken devices with the same small size that need
an LRU and/or state, bunch of LLDs can reuse a common library.
But hey yes I'm with Martin here. It sounds like a filesystem thing
and not an application thing.
>From the application side we already have the O_TMP hint and other
fadvise hits, but it is more the filesystem policy of what to do
with this.
Also current proposed solution for application is kind of a layering
violation. I set an Id at the filesystem level API: Open a file,
set an ID. But I acquire the ID from the block device under
the FS. This will never map well. In fact it calls for only a very
hard-coded hardware specific application that can use this.
Thanks
Boaz
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-06 16:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-05 20:02 [PATCH v2] Support for write stream IDs Jens Axboe
2015-05-05 20:02 ` [PATCH 1/7] block: add support for carrying a stream ID in a bio Jens Axboe
2015-05-05 20:02 ` [PATCH 2/7] Add support for per-file/inode stream ID Jens Axboe
2015-05-05 20:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-05-05 20:02 ` [PATCH 3/7] direct-io: add support for write stream IDs Jens Axboe
2015-05-05 20:02 ` [PATCH 4/7] Add stream ID support for buffered mpage/__block_write_full_page() Jens Axboe
2015-05-05 20:02 ` [PATCH 5/7] btrfs: add support for write stream IDs Jens Axboe
2015-05-05 20:03 ` [PATCH 6/7] xfs: add support for buffered writeback stream ID Jens Axboe
2015-05-05 20:03 ` [PATCH 7/7] ext4: add support for write stream IDs Jens Axboe
2015-05-05 20:07 ` [PATCH v2] Support " Christoph Hellwig
2015-05-05 20:12 ` Jens Axboe
2015-05-05 20:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-05-05 20:31 ` Jens Axboe
2015-05-05 20:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-05-05 20:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-05-05 20:51 ` Jeff Moyer
2015-05-05 21:05 ` Jens Axboe
2015-05-05 21:39 ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-05-05 21:48 ` Jens Axboe
2015-05-05 22:09 ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-05-06 14:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-06 17:25 ` Jens Axboe
2015-05-06 16:50 ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2015-05-06 17:21 ` Jens Axboe
2015-05-07 19:19 ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-05-08 18:48 ` Jens Axboe
2015-05-12 2:50 ` Martin K. Petersen
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2015-04-18 20:03 Jens Axboe
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