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From: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM ATTEND] Huge Page Futures
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 05:50:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56A62837.7010105@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160125110137.GB11541@node.shutemov.name>

On 01/25/2016 03:01 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 05:57:12PM -0800, Mike Kravetz wrote:
>> In a search of the archives, it appears huge page support in one form or
>> another has been a discussion topic in almost every LSF/MM gathering. Based
>> on patches submitted this past year, huge pages is still an area of active
>> development.  And, it appears this level of activity will  continue in the
>> coming year.
>>
>> I propose a "Huge Page Futures" session to discuss large works in progress
>> as well as work people are considering for 2016.  Areas of discussion would
>> minimally include:
>>
>> - Krill Shutemov's THP new refcounting code and the push for huge page
>>   support in the page cache.
> 
> s/Krill/Kirill/ :]

Sorry!

> 
> I work on huge pages in tmpfs first and will look on huge pages for real
> filesystems later.
> 
>>
>> - Matt Wilcox's huge page support in DAX enabled filesystems, but perhaps
>>   more interesting is the desire for supporting PUD pages.  This seems to
>>   beg the question of supporting transparent PUD pages elsewhere.
>>
>> - Other suggestions?
>>
>> My interest in attending also revolves around huge pages.  This past year
>> I have added functionality to hugetlbfs.  hugetlbfs is not dead, and is
>> very much in use by some DB implementations.  Proposed future work I will
>> be attempting includes:
>> - Adding userfaultfd support to hugetlbfs
>> - Adding shared page table (PMD) support to DAX much like that which exists
>>   for hugetlbfs
> 
> Shared page tables for hugetlbfs is rather ugly hack.
> 
> Do you have any thoughts how it's going to be implemented? It would be
> nice to have some design overview or better proof-of-concept patch before
> the summit to be able analyze implications for the kernel.
> 

Good to know the hugetlbfs implementation is considered a hack.  I just
started looking at this, and was going to use hugetlbfs as a starting
point.  I'll reconsider that decision.

BTW, this request comes from the same DB people taking advantage of shared
page tables today.  This will be as important (if not more) with the larger
sizes of pmem.

-- 
Mike Kravetz

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-25 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-25  1:57 [LSF/MM ATTEND] Huge Page Futures Mike Kravetz
2016-01-25 11:01 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-01-25 13:50   ` Mike Kravetz [this message]
2016-01-27 17:49     ` Mike Kravetz
2016-01-28  8:49       ` Hugh Dickins
2016-01-28 19:06         ` Mike Kravetz
2016-01-28  9:21       ` [Lsf-pc] " Mel Gorman
2016-01-28 18:24         ` Mike Kravetz
2016-01-28 15:05 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-01-28 19:28   ` Mike Kravetz
2016-01-29 10:01     ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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