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From: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
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	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/7] fs: prioritize and separate direct_io from dax_io
Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 21:32:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57279D57.5020800@plexistor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4hGV07gpADT32xn=3brEq75P4RJA592vp-1A+jXMQCeOQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/02/2016 09:10 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
<>
> 
> The semantic I am talking about preserving is:
> 
> buffered / unaligned write of a bad sector => -EIO on reading into the
> page cache
> 

What about aligned buffered write? like write 0-to-eof
This still broken? (and is what restore apps do)

> ...and that the only guaranteed way to clear an error (assuming the
> block device supports it) is an O_DIRECT write.
> 

Sure fixing dax_do_io will guaranty that.

<>
> I still think we're talking past each other on this point.  

Yes we are!

> This patch
> set is not overloading error semantics, it's fixing the error handling
> problem that was introduced in this commit:
> 
>    d475c6346a38 dax,ext2: replace XIP read and write with DAX I/O
> 
> ...where we started overloading O_DIRECT and dax_do_io() semantics.
> 

But above does not fix them does it? it just completely NULLs DAX for
O_DIRECT which is a great pity, why did we do all this work in the first
place.

And then it keeps broken the aligned buffered writes, which are still
broken after this set.

I have by now read the v2 patches. And I think you guys did not yet try
the proper fix for dax_do_io. I think you need to go deeper into the loops
and selectively call bdev_* when error on a specific page copy. No need to
go through direct_IO path at all.
Do you need that I send you a patch to demonstrate what I mean?

But yes I feel too that "we're talking past each other". I did want
to come to LSF and talk to you, but was not invited. Should I call you?

Thanks
Boaz

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-02 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-28 21:16 [PATCH v4 0/7] dax: handling media errors Vishal Verma
2016-04-28 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] block, dax: pass blk_dax_ctl through to drivers Vishal Verma
2016-04-28 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] dax: fallback from pmd to pte on error Vishal Verma
2016-04-28 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] dax: enable dax in the presence of known media errors (badblocks) Vishal Verma
2016-04-28 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] dax: use sb_issue_zerout instead of calling dax_clear_sectors Vishal Verma
2016-04-28 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] fs: prioritize and separate direct_io from dax_io Vishal Verma
2016-05-02 14:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-05-02 15:45     ` Vishal Verma
2016-05-02 15:41   ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-05-02 15:51     ` Vishal Verma
2016-05-02 16:03       ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-05-02 18:52         ` Verma, Vishal L
2016-05-02 16:01     ` Dan Williams
2016-05-02 16:22       ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-05-02 16:49         ` Dan Williams
2016-05-02 17:44           ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-05-02 18:10             ` Dan Williams
2016-05-02 18:32               ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2016-05-02 18:48                 ` Dan Williams
2016-05-02 19:22                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-05-05 14:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-05-05 15:15       ` Dan Williams
2016-05-05 15:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-05-05 16:24           ` Dan Williams
2016-05-05 21:45           ` Verma, Vishal L
2016-05-08  9:01             ` hch
2016-05-08 18:42               ` Verma, Vishal L
2016-05-05 21:42         ` Verma, Vishal L
2016-05-05 21:39       ` Verma, Vishal L
2016-05-08  9:01         ` hch
2016-04-28 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] dax: for truncate/hole-punch, do zeroing through the driver if possible Vishal Verma
2016-04-28 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] dax: fix a comment in dax_zero_page_range and dax_truncate_page Vishal Verma
2016-04-29 21:55 ` [PATCH v4 8/7] Documentation: add error handling information to dax.txt Vishal Verma

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