From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
dm-devel@redhat.com, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fix writing to the filesystem after unmount
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 18:01:06 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <60f244be-803b-fa70-665e-b5cba15212e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230906-aufheben-hagel-9925501b7822@brauner>
On Wed, 6 Sep 2023, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > > IOW, you'd also hang on any umount of a bind-mount. IOW, every
> > > single container making use of this filesystems via bind-mounts would
> > > hang on umount and shutdown.
> >
> > bind-mount doesn't modify "s->s_writers.frozen", so the patch does nothing
> > in this case. I tried unmounting bind-mounts and there was no deadlock.
>
> With your patch what happens if you do the following?
>
> #!/bin/sh -ex
> modprobe brd rd_size=4194304
> vgcreate vg /dev/ram0
> lvcreate -L 16M -n lv vg
> mkfs.ext4 /dev/vg/lv
>
> mount -t ext4 /dev/vg/lv /mnt/test
> mount --bind /mnt/test /opt
> mount --make-private /opt
>
> dmsetup suspend /dev/vg/lv
> (sleep 1; dmsetup resume /dev/vg/lv) &
>
> umount /opt # I'd expect this to hang
>
> md5sum /dev/vg/lv
> md5sum /dev/vg/lv
> dmsetup remove_all
> rmmod brd
"umount /opt" doesn't hang. It waits one second (until dmsetup resume is
called) and then proceeds.
Then, it fails with "rmmod: ERROR: Module brd is in use" because the
script didn't unmount /mnt/test.
> > BTW. what do you think that unmount of a frozen filesystem should properly
> > do? Fail with -EBUSY? Or, unfreeze the filesystem and unmount it? Or
> > something else?
>
> In my opinion we should refuse to unmount frozen filesystems and log an
> error that the filesystem is frozen. Waiting forever isn't a good idea
> in my opinion.
But lvm may freeze filesystems anytime - so we'd get randomly returned
errors then.
> But this is a significant uapi change afaict so this would need to be
> hidden behind a config option, a sysctl, or it would have to be a new
> flag to umount2() MNT_UNFROZEN which would allow an administrator to use
> this flag to not unmount a frozen filesystems.
The kernel currently distinguishes between kernel-initiated freeze (that
is used by the XFS scrub) and userspace-initiated freeze (that is used by
the FIFREEZE ioctl and by device-mapper initiated freeze through
freeze_bdev).
Perhaps we could distinguish between FIFREEZE-initiated freezes and
device-mapper initiated freezes as well. And we could change the logic to
return -EBUSY if the freeze was initiated by FIFREEZE and to wait for
unfreeze if it was initiated by the device-mapper.
Mikulas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-06 16:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-06 13:26 [PATCH] fix writing to the filesystem after unmount Mikulas Patocka
2023-09-06 14:27 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-06 15:03 ` Mikulas Patocka
2023-09-06 15:33 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-06 15:58 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-06 16:01 ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2023-09-06 16:19 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-06 16:52 ` Mikulas Patocka
2023-09-07 9:44 ` Jan Kara
2023-09-07 10:43 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-07 12:04 ` Mikulas Patocka
2023-09-08 7:32 ` Jan Kara
2023-09-08 9:29 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2023-09-08 10:20 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <15c62097-d58f-4e66-bdf5-e0edb1306b2f@redhat.com>
2023-09-08 11:32 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-08 12:07 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2023-09-08 12:34 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-12 9:10 ` Jan Kara
2023-09-08 12:02 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-08 16:49 ` John Stoffel
2023-09-09 11:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-08 12:01 ` Pavel Machek
2023-09-08 11:59 ` Pavel Machek
2023-09-06 17:10 ` Al Viro
2023-09-06 17:08 ` Al Viro
2023-09-06 15:22 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-09-06 15:38 ` Christian Brauner
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