From: CGEL <cgel.zte@gmail.com>
To: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@natalenko.name>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, corbet@lwn.net,
xu xin <xu.xin16@zte.com.cn>, Yang Yang <yang.yang29@zte.com.cn>,
Ran Xiaokai <ran.xiaokai@zte.com.cn>,
wangyong <wang.yong12@zte.com.cn>,
Yunkai Zhang <zhang.yunkai@zte.com.cn>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] mm/ksm: introduce ksm_force for each process
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 03:12:03 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <627b2984.1c69fb81.9002b.15f9@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5820954.lOV4Wx5bFT@natalenko.name>
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 03:30:36PM +0200, Oleksandr Natalenko wrote:
> Hello.
>
> On úterý 10. května 2022 14:22:42 CEST cgel.zte@gmail.com wrote:
> > From: xu xin <xu.xin16@zte.com.cn>
> >
> > To use KSM, we have to explicitly call madvise() in application code,
> > which means installed apps on OS needs to be uninstall and source code
> > needs to be modified. It is inconvenient.
> >
> > In order to change this situation, We add a new proc file ksm_force
> > under /proc/<pid>/ to support turning on/off KSM scanning of a
> > process's mm dynamically.
> >
> > If ksm_force is set to 1, force all anonymous and 'qualified' VMAs
> > of this mm to be involved in KSM scanning without explicitly calling
> > madvise to mark VMA as MADV_MERGEABLE. But It is effective only when
> > the klob of /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/run is set as 1.
> >
> > If ksm_force is set to 0, cancel the feature of ksm_force of this
> > process (fallback to the default state) and unmerge those merged pages
> > belonging to VMAs which is not madvised as MADV_MERGEABLE of this process,
> > but still leave MADV_MERGEABLE areas merged.
>
> To my best knowledge, last time a forcible KSM was discussed (see threads [1], [2], [3] and probably others) it was concluded that a) procfs was a horrible interface for things like this one; and b) process_madvise() syscall was among the best suggested places to implement this (which would require a more tricky handling from userspace, but still).
>
> So, what changed since that discussion?
>
Thanks a lot for your information.
However, the patch here is slightly different from your previous discussion:
your patch focuses on using procfs to change the madvise behaviour of another process,
but this patch will not modify the flag of all VMAs of the process. It introduces
a new bool ksm_force to represent this forcible feature of KSM based on process,
which is independent of madvise. the same way, process_madvise is a kind of
madvise in essence.
> P.S. For now I do it via dedicated syscall, but I'm not trying to upstream this approach.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/2a66abd8-4103-f11b-06d1-07762667eee6@suse.cz/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20190515145151.GG16651@dhcp22.suse.cz/T/#u
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190516172452.GA2106@avx2/
> [4] https://gitlab.com/post-factum/pf-kernel/-/commits/ksm-5.17/
>
> Oleksandr Natalenko (post-factum)
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-11 3:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-10 12:22 [PATCH v6] mm/ksm: introduce ksm_force for each process cgel.zte
2022-05-10 13:30 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-05-11 3:12 ` CGEL [this message]
2022-05-12 22:37 ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-13 9:51 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-05-13 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-13 20:53 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-05-12 21:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-05-13 6:50 ` CGEL
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