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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, <david@fromorbit.com>,
	<nvdimm@lists.linux.dev>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/25] fsdax: Hold dax lock over mapping insertion
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 13:17:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <634db85363e2c_4da329489@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y02tnrZXxm+NzWVK@nvidia.com>

Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 04:57:37PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > In preparation for dax_insert_entry() to start taking page and pgmap
> > references ensure that page->pgmap is valid by holding the
> > dax_read_lock() over both dax_direct_access() and dax_insert_entry().
> > 
> > I.e. the code that wants to elevate the reference count of a pgmap page
> > from 0 -> 1 must ensure that the pgmap is not exiting and will not start
> > exiting until the proper references have been taken.
> 
> I'm surprised we can have a vmfault while the pgmap is exiting?
> 
> Shouldn't the FS have torn down all the inodes before it starts
> killing the pgmap?

Historically, no. The block-device is allowed to disappear while inodes
are still live. For example, the filesystem's calls to blk_queue_enter()
will start failing, but otherwise the filesystem tries to hobble along
after the device-driver has finished ->remove(). In the typical
page-cache case this makes sense since there is still some residual
usability of cached data even after the backing device is gone.

Recently Ruan plumbed support for failure-notification callbacks into
the filesystem, or at least XFS. With that in place the driver can
theoretically notify failures like "device gone" and the FS can take
actions like tearing down inodes. However, that is FS specific enabling
/ behaviour, not something the pgmap code can rely upon. At least, not
without some layering violations.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-17 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-14 23:56 [PATCH v3 00/25] Fix the DAX-gup mistake Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 01/25] fsdax: Wait on @page not @page->_refcount Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 02/25] fsdax: Use dax_page_idle() to document DAX busy page checking Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 03/25] fsdax: Include unmapped inodes for page-idle detection Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 04/25] fsdax: Introduce dax_zap_mappings() Dan Williams
2022-11-02 13:04   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-10-14 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 05/25] fsdax: Wait for pinned pages during truncate_inode_pages_final() Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 06/25] fsdax: Validate DAX layouts broken before truncate Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 07/25] fsdax: Hold dax lock over mapping insertion Dan Williams
2022-10-17 19:31   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-17 20:17     ` Dan Williams [this message]
2022-10-18  5:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-10-18 17:30         ` Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 08/25] fsdax: Update dax_insert_entry() calling convention to return an error Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 09/25] fsdax: Rework for_each_mapped_pfn() to dax_for_each_folio() Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 10/25] fsdax: Introduce pgmap_request_folios() Dan Williams
2022-10-17  6:31   ` Alistair Popple
2022-10-17 20:06     ` Dan Williams
2022-10-17 20:11       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-17 20:51         ` Dan Williams
2022-10-17 23:57           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-18  0:19             ` Dan Williams
2022-10-17 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-14 23:58 ` [PATCH v3 11/25] fsdax: Rework dax_insert_entry() calling convention Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:58 ` [PATCH v3 12/25] fsdax: Cleanup dax_associate_entry() Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:58 ` [PATCH v3 13/25] devdax: Minor warning fixups Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:58 ` [PATCH v3 14/25] devdax: Fix sparse lock imbalance warning Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:58 ` [PATCH v3 15/25] libnvdimm/pmem: Support pmem block devices without dax Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:58 ` [PATCH v3 16/25] devdax: Move address_space helpers to the DAX core Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:58 ` [PATCH v3 17/25] devdax: Sparse fixes for xarray locking Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:58 ` [PATCH v3 18/25] devdax: Sparse fixes for vmfault_t / dax-entry conversions Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:58 ` [PATCH v3 19/25] devdax: Sparse fixes for vm_fault_t in tracepoints Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:58 ` [PATCH v3 20/25] devdax: add PUD support to the DAX mapping infrastructure Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:59 ` [PATCH v3 21/25] devdax: Use dax_insert_entry() + dax_delete_mapping_entry() Dan Williams
2022-10-14 23:59 ` [PATCH v3 22/25] mm/memremap_pages: Replace zone_device_page_init() with pgmap_request_folios() Dan Williams
2022-10-17 19:17   ` Lyude Paul
2022-10-14 23:59 ` [PATCH v3 23/25] mm/memremap_pages: Initialize all ZONE_DEVICE pages to start at refcount 0 Dan Williams
2022-10-17  7:04   ` Alistair Popple
2022-10-17 19:48   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-14 23:59 ` [PATCH v3 24/25] mm/meremap_pages: Delete put_devmap_managed_page_refs() Dan Williams
2022-10-17  7:08   ` Alistair Popple
2022-10-14 23:59 ` [PATCH v3 25/25] mm/gup: Drop DAX pgmap accounting Dan Williams

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