From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ayush Ranjan <ayushr@modal.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] shmem: FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE vs fault-around race corrupts page cache / rss counters
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2026 18:14:03 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <639389d5-5048-4145-bcbf-c4b2d57e86e8@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5ebaba53-b2de-490e-a14c-c49bbb4337ad@linux.alibaba.com>
On 10/9/26 5:20 PM, Baolin Wang wrote:
>
>
> On 10/9/26 4:41 PM, Pedro Falcato wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 09, 2026 at 02:46:18PM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/8/26 5:24 PM, Jan Kara wrote:
>>>> On Sun 04-10-26 22:28:31, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2026 03:31:03 +0000 Ayush Ranjan <ayushr@modal.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Gentle ping on this. The reproducer in my previous mail [1] triggers
>>>>>> "Bad page cache ... still mapped when deleted" on 6.18.46 within a
>>>>>> couple of minutes on a 128-CPU bare-metal box, with no fork() and no
>>>>>> gVisor involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We continue to hit this in production at low frequency, so I am happy
>>>>>> to test patches or collect more data if that would help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> fwiw I made gpt and gemini argue about this for a while and ended up
>>>>> with the below.
>>>>
>>>> Worth a try I guess. Let's see :)
>>>>
>>>>> From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>>>>> Subject: mm: shmem: serialize fault-around against hole punching
>>>>> Date: Sun Oct 4 09:05:31 PM PDT 2026
>>>>>
>>>>> shmem uses filemap_map_pages() for fault-around. Unlike
>>>>> shmem_fault(),
>>>>> filemap_map_pages() does not participate in shmem's fallocate
>>>>> exclusion
>>>>> protocol.
>>>>>
>>>>> During a partial hole punch of a large shmem folio, the folio can
>>>>> be split
>>>>> and the resulting smaller folios can remain temporarily visible in
>>>>> the page
>>>>> cache while shmem_undo_range() restarts its walk. Fault-around can
>>>>> then map
>>>>> one of those folios again before the hole-punch path removes it.
>>>>>
>>>>> shmem_undo_range() may subsequently delete that folio from the page
>>>>> cache
>>>>> despite the new userspace mapping. This can trigger "still mapped
>>>>> when
>>>>> deleted" warnings and leave stale mappings or inconsistent RSS/
>>>>> page-table
>>>>> accounting behind.
>>>>
>>>> So this part of explanation is either incomplete or wrong in my
>>>> opinion.
>>>> Yes, shmem_undo_range() calls truncate_inode_partial_folio() which can
>>>> split a large folio. Yes, filemap_map_pages() can map those pages
>>>> back into
>>>> page tables. But how "shmem_undo_range() may subsequently delete
>>>> that folio
>>>> from the page cache despite the new userspace mapping" happens is
>>>> unclear
>>>> to me. After splitting a folio, shmem_undo_range() will restart and
>>>> find the
>>>> newly split (and mapped) folios and calls truncate_inode_folio() to
>>>> get rid
>>>> of them. Now truncate_inode_folio() calls truncate_cleanup_folio()
>>>> which
>>>> does:
>>>>
>>>> if (folio_mapped(folio))
>>>> unmap_mapping_folio(folio);
>>>>
>>>> so the mapping is reliably removed under folio lock. Can you perhaps
>>>> push
>>>> your agents further to explain in more detail how this "still mapped
>>>> when
>>>> deleted" happens in their opinion?
>>>
>>> Good point and I think you are right.
>>>
>>> Yesterday I quickly reproduced the issue with Ayush's reproducer, and
>>> I got
>>> the following crash info. From the dump message, we can see that
>>> truncate_inode_folio() is really trying to remove mapped folios,
>>> which is
>>> incorrect.
>>>
>>> I also quickly tried Andrew's patch, and the issue no longer
>>> reproduces, so
>>> I initially thought that was the root cause. But after your reminder,
>>> I now
>>> believe Andrew's patch merely workaround the issue rather than fixing
>>> the
>>> actual root cause.
>>>
>>> Today I'm going to re-analyze the race with the reproducer (thanks
>>> Ayush).
>>>
>>> After analysis, I believe the race exists between truncation and
>>> MADV_DONTNEED, and shmem's fault_around() merely makes the issue
>>> easier to
>>> reproduce. Since MADV_DONTNEED synchronously releases the pagetable page
>>> before calling tlb_flush_rmaps(), this could cause another thread's
>>> truncation to skip zap_pte_range() but still observe the folio's
>>> mapcount as
>>> non-zero. A possible race scenario is as follows:
>>>
>>> CPU 0 CPU 1
>>> madvise_dontneed_single_vma
>>> shmem_fallocate ......
>>> ...... zap_pte_range
>>> truncate_inode_folio zap_empty_pte_table(pmd clear)
>>> unmap_mapping_folio
>>> ......
>>> zap_pmd_range(saw pmd none)
>>> filemap_remove_folio
>>> BUG_ON(folio_mapped)
>>> tlb_flush_rmaps
>>
>> Thanks for the investigation!
>>
>> So, I think I understand the problem (rmap walks race PTE zapping,
>> which no
>> longer serializes on the PTE lock), but I don't understand your
>> solution at
>> all.
>>>
>>> Based on the above race analysis, I made the following fix that uses
>>> the PMD
>>> lock synchronously to prevent this race, and the issue no longer
>>> reproduces.
>>> I will clean it up and send out a formal patch.
>>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>>> index 6a8e7772b8d6..2039ada99b64 100644
>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>>> @@ -2036,6 +2036,15 @@ static unsigned long zap_pte_range(struct
>>> mmu_gather
>>> *tlb,
>>> }
>>> } while (pte += nr, addr += PAGE_SIZE * nr, addr != end);
>>>
>>> + add_mm_rss_vec(mm, rss);
>>> + lazy_mmu_mode_disable();
>>> +
>>> + /* Do the actual TLB flush before dropping ptl */
>>> + if (force_flush) {
>>> + tlb_flush_mmu_tlbonly(tlb);
>>> + tlb_flush_rmaps(tlb, vma);
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> /*
>>> * Fast path: try to hold the pmd lock and unmap the PTE page.
>>> *
>>> @@ -2046,15 +2055,6 @@ static unsigned long zap_pte_range(struct
>>> mmu_gather
>>> *tlb,
>>> */
>>> if (can_reclaim_pt && direct_reclaim && addr == end)
>>> direct_reclaim = zap_empty_pte_table(mm, pmd, ptl,
>>> &pmdval);
>>> -
>>> - add_mm_rss_vec(mm, rss);
>>> - lazy_mmu_mode_disable();
>>> -
>>> - /* Do the actual TLB flush before dropping ptl */
>>> - if (force_flush) {
>>> - tlb_flush_mmu_tlbonly(tlb);
>>> - tlb_flush_rmaps(tlb, vma);
>>> - }
>>> pte_unmap_unlock(start_pte, ptl);
>>
>> Namely, why moving this hunk of code up there makes any difference.
>> I suppose it's subtly changing memory order, but it's not immediate
>> in any way why this is correct.
>>
>> What you really need (I think) is a happens-before relationship between
>> the rmap changes and the PMD zapping. Something like:
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>> index 330cde31bf8b..17cdd48fff27 100644
>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>> @@ -2108,6 +2108,13 @@ static inline unsigned long
>> zap_pmd_range(struct mmu_gather *tlb,
>> sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(tlb->mm, pmd);
>> }
>> if (pmd_none(*pmd)) {
>> + /*
>> + * Pairs with tlb_flush_rmaps() in PTE zapping.
>> + * Possibly skipping a page table (due to PTE
>> zapping)
>> + * needs to enforce ordering between the rmap
>> changes
>> + * and the PMD getting cleared.
>> + */
>> + smp_rmb();
>> addr = next;
>> continue;
>> }
>> diff --git a/mm/mmu_gather.c b/mm/mmu_gather.c
>> index 9f353f0e2ef4..47b25c42bf77 100644
>> --- a/mm/mmu_gather.c
>> +++ b/mm/mmu_gather.c
>> @@ -89,6 +89,10 @@ void tlb_flush_rmaps(struct mmu_gather *tlb, struct
>> vm_area_struct *vma)
>> tlb_flush_rmap_batch(&tlb->local, vma);
>> if (tlb->active != &tlb->local)
>> tlb_flush_rmap_batch(tlb->active, vma);
>> + /*
>> + * rmap changes need to be observed before e.g PTEs get zapped.
>> + */
>> + smp_wmb();
>> tlb->delayed_rmap = 0;
>> }
>> #endif
>>
>> On top of your diff. Where the smp_wmb() is perhaps not required: I
>> suppose TLB flushing
>> works as a sort of memory barrier itself on most/all architectures.
>> Either way, we have to document and fix expectations around this code.
>
> Agree, I don't think we need smp_wmb() here. Moreover,
> zap_empty_pte_table() will call the pmd lock/unlock, which already
> indicates a memory barrier.
After more thinking, I think we still need an smp_wmb(). Please review
my new fix patch. Thanks.
https://lore.kernel.org/all/0d2a1809fa1cfc22ad3df26ec28b2d30e5cdf3bd.1791540483.git.baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com/
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-24 6:16 [BUG] shmem: FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE vs fault-around race corrupts page cache / rss counters Ayush Ranjan
2026-09-24 7:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-24 8:34 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-09-24 9:15 ` Jan Kara
2026-09-25 5:32 ` Ayush Ranjan
2026-09-24 9:30 ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-25 5:33 ` Ayush Ranjan
2026-09-25 5:30 ` Ayush Ranjan
2026-09-25 6:50 ` Ayush Ranjan
2026-10-03 3:31 ` Ayush Ranjan
2026-10-05 5:28 ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-08 9:24 ` Jan Kara
2026-10-08 15:23 ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-08 15:31 ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-09 6:46 ` Baolin Wang
2026-10-09 8:41 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-09 9:20 ` Baolin Wang
2026-10-09 10:14 ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2026-10-08 13:07 ` Gregory Price
2026-10-08 7:58 ` Baolin Wang
2026-10-08 9:26 ` Jan Kara
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