From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/15] fs: afs: correctly drop reference count on mapping failure
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 08:58:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <679f8190-752a-4b0c-ab5e-635938169cab@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpH2XyAJOFKCZnviVV_UbF4O0wzj3QgJieo+LD=Cvr71jA@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 08:41:48PM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 7:29 AM Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) <ljs@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 07:32:54PM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 5:00 AM Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) <ljs@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 04:07:43AM -0700, Usama Arif wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 12 Mar 2026 20:27:20 +0000 "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Commit 9d5403b1036c ("fs: convert most other generic_file_*mmap() users to
> > > > > > .mmap_prepare()") updated AFS to use the mmap_prepare callback in favour of
> > > > > > the deprecated mmap callback.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, it did not account for the fact that mmap_prepare can fail to map
> > > > > > due to an out of memory error, and thus should not be incrementing a
> > > > > > reference count on mmap_prepare.
> > >
> > > This is a bit confusing. I see the current implementation does
> > > afs_add_open_mmap() and then if generic_file_mmap_prepare() fails it
> > > does afs_drop_open_mmap(), therefore refcounting seems to be balanced.
> > > Is there really a problem?
> >
> > Firstly, mmap_prepare is invoked before we try to merge, so the VMA could in
> > theory get merged and then the refcounting will be wrong.
>
> I see now. Ok, makes sense.
>
> >
> > Secondly, mmap_prepare occurs at such at time where it is _possible_ that
> > allocation failures as described below could happen.
>
> Right, but in that case afs_file_mmap_prepare() would drop its
> refcount and return an error, so refcounting is still good, no?
Nope, in __mmap_region():
call_mmap_prepare()
-> __mmap_new_vma()
vm_area_alloc() -> can fail
vma_iter_prealloc() -> can fail
__mmap_new_file_vma() / shmem_zero_setup() -> can fail
If any of those fail the VMA is not even set up, so no close() will be called
because there's no VMA to call close on.
This is what makes mmap_prepare very different from mmap which passes in (a
partially established) VMA.
That and of course a potential merge would mean any refcount increment would be
wrong.
>
> >
> > I'll update the commit message to reflect the merge aspect actually.
>
> Thanks!
You're welcome, and done in v2 :)
>
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With the newly added vm_ops->mapped callback available, we can simply defer
> > > > > > this operation to that callback which is only invoked once the mapping is
> > > > > > successfully in place (but not yet visible to userspace as the mmap and VMA
> > > > > > write locks are held).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Therefore add afs_mapped() to implement this callback for AFS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In practice the mapping allocations are 'too small to fail' so this is
> > > > > > something that realistically should never happen in practice (or would do
> > > > > > so in a case where the process is about to die anyway), but we should still
> > > > > > handle this.
> > >
> > > nit: I would drop the above paragraph. If it's impossible why are you
> > > handling it? If it's unlikely, then handling it is even more
> > > important.
> >
> > Sure I can drop it, but it's an ongoing thing with these small allocations.
> >
> > I wish we could just move to a scenario where we can simpy assume allocations
> > will always succeed :)
>
> That would be really nice but unfortunately the world is not that
> perfect. I just don't want to be chasing some rarely reproducible bug
> because of the assumption that an allocation is too small to fail.
I mean I agree, we should handle all error paths.
Cheers, Lorenzo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-17 8:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-12 20:27 [PATCH 00/15] mm: expand mmap_prepare functionality and usage Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 01/15] mm: various small mmap_prepare cleanups Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 21:14 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-13 12:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-15 22:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-03-15 23:06 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-03-16 14:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-16 14:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-16 21:27 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 02/15] mm: add documentation for the mmap_prepare file operation callback Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-13 0:12 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-03-16 14:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-15 23:23 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-03-16 19:16 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-16 22:59 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 03/15] mm: document vm_operations_struct->open the same as close() Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-16 0:43 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-03-16 14:31 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 04/15] mm: add vm_ops->mapped hook Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-13 11:02 ` Usama Arif
2026-03-13 11:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-16 2:18 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-03-16 13:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-16 23:39 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-03-17 8:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 05/15] fs: afs: correctly drop reference count on mapping failure Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-13 11:07 ` Usama Arif
2026-03-13 12:00 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-16 2:32 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-03-16 14:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-17 3:41 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-03-17 8:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) [this message]
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 06/15] mm: add mmap_action_simple_ioremap() Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 07/15] misc: open-dice: replace deprecated mmap hook with mmap_prepare Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 08/15] hpet: " Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 09/15] mtdchar: replace deprecated mmap hook with mmap_prepare, clean up Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 10/15] stm: replace deprecated mmap hook with mmap_prepare Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 11/15] staging: vme_user: " Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 12/15] mm: allow handling of stacked mmap_prepare hooks in more drivers Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 13/15] drivers: hv: vmbus: replace deprecated mmap hook with mmap_prepare Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 14/15] uio: replace deprecated mmap hook with mmap_prepare in uio_info Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 20:27 ` [PATCH 15/15] mm: add mmap_action_map_kernel_pages[_full]() Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 23:15 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-03-16 14:54 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-12 21:23 ` [PATCH 00/15] mm: expand mmap_prepare functionality and usage Andrew Morton
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