From: jtk@us.ibm.com (John T. Kohl)
To: Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com>
Cc: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
nfs@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
autofs mailing list <autofs@linux.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [NFS] Re: [RFC] Multiple server selection and replicated mount failover
Date: 24 May 2006 16:45:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6cpsi36tkf.fsf@sumu.lexma.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44745972.2010305@redhat.com>
>>>>> "PS" == Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com> writes:
PS> When the Solaris client gets a timeout from an RPC, it checks to see
PS> whether this file and mount are failover'able. This checks to see
PS> whether there are alternate servers in the list and could contain a
PS> check to see if there are locks existing on the file. If there are
PS> locks, then don't failover. The alternative to doing this is to
PS> attempt to move the lock, but this could be problematic because
PS> there would be no guarantee that the new lock could be acquired.
PS> Anyway, if the file is failover'able, then a new server is chosen
PS> from the list and the file handle associated with the file is
PS> remapped to the equivalent file on the new server. This is done by
PS> repeating the lookups done to get the original file handle. Once
PS> the new file handle is acquired, then some minimal checks are done
PS> to try to ensure that the files are the "same". This is probably
PS> mostly checking to see whether the sizes of the two files are the
PS> same.
PS> Please note that this approach contains the interesting aspect that
PS> files are only failed over when they need to be and are not failed over
PS> proactively. This can lead to the situation where processes using the
PS> the file system can be talking to many of the different underlying
PS> servers, all at the sametime. If a server goes down and then comes back
PS> up before a process, which was talking to that server, notices, then it
PS> will just continue to use that server, while another process, which
PS> noticed the failed server, may have failed over to a new server.
If you have multiple processes talking to different server replicas, can
you then get cases where the processes aren't sharing the same files given
the same name?
Process "A" looks up /mount/a/b/c/file.c (using server 1) opens it and
starts working on it. It then sits around doing nothing for a while.
Process "B" cd's to /mount/a/b, gets a timeout, fails over to server 2,
and then looks up "c/file.c" which will be referencing the object on
server 2 ?
A & B then try locking to cooperate...
Are replicas only useful for read-only copies? If they're read-only, do
locks even make sense?
--
John Kohl
Senior Software Engineer - Rational Software - IBM Software Group
Lexington, Massachusetts, USA
jtk@us.ibm.com
<http://www.ibm.com/software/rational/>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-24 20:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-02 5:56 [RFC] Multiple server selection and replicated mount failover Ian Kent
2006-05-24 5:05 ` Ian Kent
2006-05-24 13:02 ` [NFS] " Peter Staubach
2006-05-24 13:45 ` Ian Kent
2006-05-24 14:04 ` Peter Staubach
2006-05-24 14:31 ` Ian Kent
2006-05-24 20:45 ` John T. Kohl [this message]
2006-05-24 20:52 ` [NFS] " Dan Stromberg
2006-05-29 7:31 ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2006-05-30 12:02 ` Jeff Moyer
2006-05-24 16:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-05-24 17:58 ` [autofs] " Jeff Moyer
2006-05-24 18:31 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-05-24 19:17 ` Peter Staubach
2006-05-24 19:45 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-05-25 3:56 ` Ian Kent
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