From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Dave Quigley <dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
casey@schaufler-ca.com, viro@ftp.linux.org.uk,
bfields@fieldses.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/11] Security: Add hook to get full maclabel xattr name
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:55:46 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <710000.44550.qm@web36605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1204246805.7363.23.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
--- Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 19:51 -0500, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:50:06PM -0800, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > > As I've told you several times before: we're _NOT_ putting private
> > > ioctl^Hxattrs onto the wire. If the protocol can't be described in an
> > > RFC, then it isn't going in no matter what expletive you choose to
> > > use...
> >
> > It's as unstructured as the named attributes already in. Or file data
> > for that matter.
>
> Describing what is supposed to be a security mechanism in a structured
> fashion for use in a protocol should hardly be an impossible task (and
> AFAICS, Dave & co are making good progress in doing so). If it is, then
> that casts serious doubt on the validity of the security model...
Now this is were I always get confused. I sounds like you're
saying that a name/value pair is insufficiently structured for
use in a protocol specification.
> There should be no need for ioctls.
Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned you just threw a bunny under
the train for no apparent reason. What have ioctls got to do with
anything?
Casey Schaufler
casey@schaufler-ca.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-29 1:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-27 22:11 RFC Labeled NFS Initial Code Review David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 01/11] Security: Add hook to get full maclabel xattr name David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 23:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-28 0:12 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-28 1:07 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-28 13:43 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-02-28 19:23 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-28 19:30 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-02-28 19:59 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-28 23:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-29 0:04 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 0:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-29 0:32 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 1:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-29 0:42 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 2:07 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 1:48 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 13:30 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-02-29 14:45 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-02-29 1:47 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 1:33 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 2:15 ` James Morris
2008-02-29 0:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-29 0:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-29 1:00 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-29 1:55 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2008-02-29 5:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-29 17:46 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 18:28 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-29 18:52 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 19:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-29 21:07 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 21:00 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 22:27 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 22:15 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 22:58 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-03-01 0:09 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-03-01 0:41 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 1:26 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 5:01 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-29 17:26 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 1:04 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 0:52 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 2:29 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 2:09 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 1:15 ` James Morris
2008-02-29 13:31 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-02-29 17:52 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 21:50 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 02/11] Security: Add hook to calculate context based on a negative dentry David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 03/11] VFS: Add security label support to *notify David P. Quigley
2008-02-28 1:20 ` James Morris
2008-02-28 16:07 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-28 23:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-28 23:44 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 0:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-29 0:06 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 1:52 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 20:19 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 04/11] KConfig: Add KConfig entries for SELinux labeled NFS David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 05/11] NFSv4: Add label recommended attribute and NFSv4 flags David P. Quigley
2008-02-28 1:52 ` James Morris
2008-02-28 1:45 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-28 13:55 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 06/11] SELinux: Add new labeling type native labels David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 07/11] NFS/SELinux: Add security_label text mount option to nfs and add handling code to the security server David P. Quigley
2008-02-28 14:22 ` Eric Paris
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 08/11] NFS: Introduce lifecycle management for label attribute David P. Quigley
2008-02-28 4:13 ` James Morris
2008-02-28 16:24 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-28 16:46 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 09/11] NFS: Client implementation of Labeled-NFS David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 10/11] NFS: Extend nfs xattr handlers to accept the security namespace David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 11/11] NFSD: Server implementation of MAC Labeling David P. Quigley
2008-02-28 1:46 ` James Morris
2008-02-28 0:48 ` RFC Labeled NFS Initial Code Review Dave Quigley
2008-02-28 1:23 ` Dave Quigley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-02-27 20:39 David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 20:39 ` [PATCH 01/11] Security: Add hook to get full maclabel xattr name David P. Quigley
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