From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/3] mm: track DONTCACHE dirty pages per bdi_writeback
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 15:34:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <71d77e4e-8441-4575-acfb-ac81ab57ec95@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <960ba89c3c6a04a7b9137322493d65e4ab4cd7d2.camel@kernel.org>
On 5/11/26 15:29, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Mon, 2026-05-11 at 15:10 +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
>> On Mon, May 11, 2026 at 07:58:28AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>> Add a per-wb WB_DONTCACHE_DIRTY counter that tracks the number of dirty
>>> pages with the dropbehind flag set (i.e., pages dirtied via RWF_DONTCACHE
>>> writes).
>>>
>>> Increment the counter alongside WB_RECLAIMABLE in folio_account_dirtied()
>>> when the folio has the dropbehind flag set, and decrement it in
>>> folio_clear_dirty_for_io() and folio_account_cleaned(). Also decrement it
>>> when a non-DONTCACHE lookup atomically clears the dropbehind flag on a
>>> dirty folio in __filemap_get_folio_mpol(), using folio_test_clear_dropbehind()
>>> to prevent concurrent lookups from double-decrementing the counter, and
>>> guarding the decrement with mapping_can_writeback() to match the increment
>>> path.
>>>
>>> Transfer the counter alongside WB_RECLAIMABLE in inode_do_switch_wbs() so
>>> that the stat is properly migrated when an inode switches cgroup writeback
>>> domains.
>>>
>>> The counter will be used by the writeback flusher to determine how many
>>> pages to write back when expediting writeback for IOCB_DONTCACHE writes,
>>> without flushing the entire BDI's dirty pages.
>>>
>>> Suggested-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
>>> Assisted-by: Claude:claude-opus-4-6
>>
>> Picking up on something we discussed at LSFMM in one of the sessions as
>> an aside rant: I find these AI Assisted-by tags so useless tbh and just
>> pure noise in the git log _especially_ for a core developer like Jeff
>> that I really don't see the point of them and I'm always tempted to just
>> remove the tags when I apply. I have dropped them before because I found
>> them so pointless.
>>
>> Crediting Jan here is the right thing to do and it provides actual value
>> and also just makes sure that a real person who spent time helping out
>> gets visibility in the git history. Why we should extend the same
>> courtesy to automated tooling is really beyond me. Somehow we've become
>> all convinced that these tools require a special status but have spent
>> months arguing about the usefulness of other tags.
>
> To be clear, Christoph and Ritesh also contributed a lot of review and
> suggestions.
>
> I was mainly trying to follow this new verbiage in
> Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst:
>
> ------------------8<-------------------
> Using Assisted-by:
> ------------------
> If you used any sort of advanced coding tool in the creation of your patch,
> you need to acknowledge that use by adding an Assisted-by tag. Failure to
> do so may impede the acceptance of your work. Please see
> Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst for details regarding the
> acknowledgment of coding assistants.
> ------------------8<-------------------
>
> If we're demanding this from anyone, then we should demand it from
> everyone. I don't think we want one set of rules for core contributors
> and another set for other folks.
>
> As to whether we should add them at all -- I don't know. I think it
> really comes down to what we intend to do with this info. I'll play
> devil's advocate for the moment:
>
> The cost of adding these tags is low. It's just a few extra bits in the
> repo. Maybe this could eventually have historical value?
As we don't really know "how" AI tooling helped. it's pretty useless without a
more detailed description I'm afraid.
OTOH, we want people (in particular not trusted community members) to indicate
that it might all just be unchecked AI output.
Hm.
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-11 13:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-11 11:58 [PATCH v7 0/3] mm: improve write performance with RWF_DONTCACHE Jeff Layton
2026-05-11 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] mm: preserve PG_dropbehind flag during folio split Jeff Layton
2026-05-11 12:38 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12 13:58 ` Jan Kara
2026-05-11 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] mm: track DONTCACHE dirty pages per bdi_writeback Jeff Layton
2026-05-11 13:10 ` Christian Brauner
2026-05-11 13:29 ` Jeff Layton
2026-05-11 13:34 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-05-12 14:07 ` Jan Kara
2026-05-13 2:07 ` Ritesh Harjani
2026-05-11 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] mm: kick writeback flusher for IOCB_DONTCACHE with targeted dirty tracking Jeff Layton
2026-05-11 13:24 ` Christian Brauner
2026-05-11 13:53 ` Jeff Layton
2026-05-11 14:06 ` Christian Brauner
2026-05-12 14:17 ` Jan Kara
2026-05-13 3:01 ` Ritesh Harjani
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