From: Giorgi Tchankvetadze <giorgitchankvetadze1997@gmail.com>
To: sunjunchao@bytedance.com
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, brauner@kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, jack@suse.cz, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, mhocko@kernel.org, muchun.song@linux.dev,
roman.gushchin@linux.dev, shakeel.butt@linux.dev, tj@kernel.org,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [PATCH] memcg: Don't wait writeback completion when release memcg.
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 12:08:33 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <76a95839-00b1-43b8-af78-af4da8a2941c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHSKhtebXWE5m0RcesWe_w2z1Gpqt1n5X0wuE9oD1tX6VxztUg@mail.gmail.com>
Hi there. Can we fix this by allowing callers to set work->done = NULL
when no completion is desired?
The already-existing "if (done)" check in finish_writeback_work()
already provides the necessary protection, so the change is purely
mechanical.
On 8/23/2025 10:18 AM, Julian Sun wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 1:56 AM Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > Hello, > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 04:22:09PM +0800, Julian Sun
> wrote: > > +struct wb_wait_queue_head { > > + wait_queue_head_t waitq; >
> > + wb_wait_wakeup_func_t wb_wakeup_func; > > +}; > > wait_queue_head_t
> itself already allows overriding the wakeup function. > Please look for
> init_wait_func() usages in the tree. Hopefully, that should > contain
> the changes within memcg.
> Well... Yes, I checked this function before, but it can't do the same
> thing as in the previous email. There are some differences—please
> check the code in the last email.
>
> First, let's clarify: the key point here is that if we want to remove
> wb_wait_for_completion() and avoid self-freeing, we must not access
> "done" in finish_writeback_work(), otherwise it will cause a UAF.
> However, init_wait_func() can't achieve this. Of course, I also admit
> that the method in the previous email seems a bit odd.
>
> To summarize again, the root causes of the problem here are:
> 1. When memcg is released, it calls wb_wait_for_completion() to
> prevent UAF, which is completely unnecessary—cgwb_frn only needs to
> issue wb work and no need to wait writeback finished.
> 2. The current finish_writeback_work() will definitely dereference
> "done", which may lead to UAF.
>
> Essentially, cgwb_frn introduces a new scenario where no wake-up is
> needed. Therefore, we just need to make finish_writeback_work() not
> dereference "done" and not wake up the waiting thread. However, this
> cannot keep the modifications within memcg...
>
> Please correct me if my understanding is incorrect.
>> > Thanks. > > -- > tejun
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Julian Sun <sunjunchao@bytedance.com>
>
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 1:56 AM Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > Hello, > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 04:22:09PM +0800, Julian Sun
> wrote: > > +struct wb_wait_queue_head { > > + wait_queue_head_t waitq; >
> > + wb_wait_wakeup_func_t wb_wakeup_func; > > +}; > > wait_queue_head_t
> itself already allows overriding the wakeup function. > Please look for
> init_wait_func() usages in the tree. Hopefully, that should > contain
> the changes within memcg.
> Well... Yes, I checked this function before, but it can't do the same
> thing as in the previous email. There are some differences—please
> check the code in the last email.
>
> First, let's clarify: the key point here is that if we want to remove
> wb_wait_for_completion() and avoid self-freeing, we must not access
> "done" in finish_writeback_work(), otherwise it will cause a UAF.
> However, init_wait_func() can't achieve this. Of course, I also admit
> that the method in the previous email seems a bit odd.
>
> To summarize again, the root causes of the problem here are:
> 1. When memcg is released, it calls wb_wait_for_completion() to
> prevent UAF, which is completely unnecessary—cgwb_frn only needs to
> issue wb work and no need to wait writeback finished.
> 2. The current finish_writeback_work() will definitely dereference
> "done", which may lead to UAF.
>
> Essentially, cgwb_frn introduces a new scenario where no wake-up is
> needed. Therefore, we just need to make finish_writeback_work() not
> dereference "done" and not wake up the waiting thread. However, this
> cannot keep the modifications within memcg...
>
> Please correct me if my understanding is incorrect.
>> > Thanks. > > -- > tejun
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Julian Sun <sunjunchao@bytedance.com>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-23 8:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-20 11:19 [PATCH 0/3] memcg, writeback: Don't wait writeback completion Julian Sun
2025-08-20 11:19 ` [PATCH 1/3] writeback: Rename wb_writeback_work->auto_free to free_work Julian Sun
2025-08-20 11:19 ` [PATCH] writeback: Add wb_writeback_work->free_done Julian Sun
2025-08-20 11:19 ` [PATCH] memcg: Don't wait writeback completion when release memcg Julian Sun
2025-08-20 20:58 ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-21 2:30 ` [External] " Julian Sun
2025-08-21 16:59 ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-21 18:00 ` Julian Sun
2025-08-21 18:16 ` Julian Sun
2025-08-21 19:01 ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-22 8:22 ` Julian Sun
2025-08-22 17:56 ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-23 6:18 ` Julian Sun
2025-08-23 8:08 ` Giorgi Tchankvetadze [this message]
2025-08-23 8:22 ` Julian Sun
2025-08-23 14:08 ` Giorgi Tchankvetadze
2025-08-23 15:17 ` Julian Sun
2025-08-25 17:45 ` Julian Sun
2025-08-25 18:53 ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-25 19:06 ` Julian Sun
2025-08-25 10:13 ` Jan Kara
2025-08-25 12:08 ` Julian Sun
2025-08-25 18:57 ` [External] " Tejun Heo
2025-08-20 12:16 ` [PATCH 0/3] memcg, writeback: Don't wait writeback completion Giorgi Tchankvetadze
2025-08-21 2:37 ` [External] " Julian Sun
2025-08-22 9:29 ` Giorgi Tchankvetadze
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