From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
shepjeng@gmail.com, kernel@cccheng.net,
Chung-Chiang Cheng <cccheng@synology.com>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] splice: report related fsnotify events
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2023 11:23:25 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <80ccc66e-b414-6b68-ae10-59cf38745b45@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxjf2rHyUWYB+K-YqKBxq_0mLpOMfqnFm4njPJ+z+6nGcw@mail.gmail.com>
On 4/3/23 11:15?AM, Amir Goldstein wrote:
>> On 4/3/23 11:00?AM, Amir Goldstein wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:08?AM Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 8:51?AM Chung-Chiang Cheng <cccheng@synology.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The fsnotify ACCESS and MODIFY event are missing when manipulating a file
>>>>> with splice(2).
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Jens, Jan,
>>>
>>> FYI, I've audited aio routines and found that
>>> fsnotify_access()/modify() are also missing in aio_complete_rw()
>>> and in io_complete_rw_iopoll() (io_req_io_end() should be called?).
>>>
>>> I am not using/testing aio/io_uring usually, so I wasn't planning on sending
>>> a patch any time soon. I'll get to it someday.
>>> Just wanted to bring this to public attention in case someone is
>>> interested in testing/fixing.
>>
>> aio has never done fsnotify, but I think that's probably an oversight.
>
> I know. and I am not keen either on fixing something that nobody
> complained about.
Nobody does buffered IO with aio (as it doesn't work), which is probably
why nobody complained.
>> io_uring does do it for non-polled IO, I don't think there's much point
>> in adding it to IOPOLL however. Not really seeing any use cases where
>> that would make sense.
>>
>
> Users subscribe to fsnotify because they want to be notified of changes/
> access to a file.
> Why do you think that polled IO should be exempt?
Because it's a drastically different use case. If you're doing high
performance polled IO, then you'd never rely on something as slow as
fsnotify to tell you of any changes that happened to a device or file.
That would be counter productive.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-03 17:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-22 6:25 [PATCH] splice: report related fsnotify events Chung-Chiang Cheng
2023-03-22 7:08 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-04-03 17:00 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-04-03 17:03 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-03 17:15 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-04-03 17:23 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2023-04-04 9:21 ` Jan Kara
2023-04-04 13:45 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-04-04 16:30 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-04 16:29 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-03 12:31 ` Christian Brauner
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