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From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: brauner@kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org, cem@kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ojaswin@linux.ibm.com,
	ritesh.list@gmail.com, martin.petersen@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 04/10] xfs: Reflink CoW-based atomic write support
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 09:13:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81247acc-f0fe-4d10-a0cd-bbd5b792267f@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9E3Sbh4AWm1C1IQ@infradead.org>

On 12/03/2025 07:27, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 06:39:40PM +0000, John Garry wrote:
>> Base SW-based atomic writes on CoW.
>>
>> For SW-based atomic write support, always allocate a cow hole in
>> xfs_reflink_allocate_cow() to write the new data.
> 
> What is a "COW hole"?

I really mean a cow mapping. I can reword that.

> 
>> The semantics is that if @atomic_sw is set, we will be passed a CoW fork
>> extent mapping for no error returned.
> 
> This commit log feels extremely sparse for a brand new feature with
> data integrity impact.  Can you expand on it a little?

Sure, will do

> 
>> +	bool			atomic_sw = flags & XFS_REFLINK_ATOMIC_SW;
> 
> atomic_sw is not a very descriptive variable name.

ack

> 
>>   
>>   	resaligned = xfs_aligned_fsb_count(imap->br_startoff,
>>   		imap->br_blockcount, xfs_get_cowextsz_hint(ip));
>> @@ -466,7 +467,7 @@ xfs_reflink_fill_cow_hole(
>>   	*lockmode = XFS_ILOCK_EXCL;
>>   
>>   	error = xfs_find_trim_cow_extent(ip, imap, cmap, shared, &found);
>> -	if (error || !*shared)
>> +	if (error || (!*shared && !atomic_sw))
> 
> And it's pnly used once.  Basically is is used to force COW, right?

Yes, we force it. Indeed, I think that is term you used a long time ago 
in your RFC for atomic file updates.

But that flag is being used to set XFS_BMAPI_EXTSZALIGN, so feels like a 
bit of a disconnect as why we would set XFS_BMAPI_EXTSZALIGN for "forced 
cow". I would need to spell that out.


> Maybe use that fact as it describes the semantics at this level
> instead of the very high level intent?

ok, fine

> 
>> @@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
>>    * Flags for xfs_reflink_allocate_cow()
>>    */
>>   #define XFS_REFLINK_CONVERT	(1u << 0) /* convert unwritten extents now */
>> +#define XFS_REFLINK_ATOMIC_SW	(1u << 1) /* alloc for SW-based atomic write */
> 
> Please expand what this actually means at the xfs_reflink_allocate_cow.
> Of if it is just a force flag as I suspect speel that out.  And
> move the comment up to avoid the overly long line as well as giving
> you space to actually spell the semantics out.

OK, I can do that, especially since XFS_REFLINK_CONVERT is going to be 
renamed.

Thanks,
John

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-12  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-10 18:39 [PATCH v5 00/10] large atomic writes for xfs with CoW John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] xfs: Pass flags to xfs_reflink_allocate_cow() John Garry
2025-03-12  7:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:19     ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] xfs: Switch atomic write size check in xfs_file_write_iter() John Garry
2025-03-12  7:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:21     ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] xfs: Refactor xfs_reflink_end_cow_extent() John Garry
2025-03-12  7:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:27     ` John Garry
2025-03-12  8:35       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 15:46         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-12 22:06           ` John Garry
2025-03-12 23:22             ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-13  1:25           ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-13  4:51             ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-13  6:11               ` John Garry
2025-03-18  0:43                 ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-13  7:21               ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-22  5:19                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] xfs: Reflink CoW-based atomic write support John Garry
2025-03-12  7:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  9:13     ` John Garry [this message]
2025-03-12 13:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 14:48         ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] xfs: Iomap SW-based " John Garry
2025-03-12  7:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  9:00     ` John Garry
2025-03-12 13:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 14:57         ` John Garry
2025-03-12 15:55           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 16:11             ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] xfs: Add xfs_file_dio_write_atomic() John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] xfs: Commit CoW-based atomic writes atomically John Garry
2025-03-12  7:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  9:04     ` John Garry
2025-03-12 13:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 15:01         ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] xfs: Update atomic write max size John Garry
2025-03-11 14:40   ` Carlos Maiolino
2025-03-12  7:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:09     ` John Garry
2025-03-12  8:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:14         ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] xfs: Allow block allocator to take an alignment hint John Garry
2025-03-12  7:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:05     ` John Garry
2025-03-12 13:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 14:47         ` John Garry
2025-03-12 16:00         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-12 16:28           ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH RFC v5 10/10] iomap: Rename ATOMIC flags again John Garry
2025-03-12  7:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 23:59     ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-13  6:28       ` John Garry
2025-03-13  7:02         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13  7:41           ` John Garry
2025-03-13  7:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13  7:53               ` John Garry
2025-03-13  8:09                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13  8:18                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13  8:24                     ` John Garry
2025-03-13  8:28                     ` Christoph Hellwig

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